Pei Hwa Presbyterian Primary

[php]

E3:

These are for the ones going for the Math Olympiad Competitions, right?


Was php referring to those training for competitions or training for doing upper pri Math exam papers?

I meant in general for students, not training for competition...

[markfch]

Jennifer:

markfch:

[quote=\"php\"]
markfch, you see for yourself... more things are coming in, right? just to share with you and i believe many parents did that...i exposed dd to Maths Olympiad after SA1. now she can solve chicken-rabbit question and interval question.....

Maths Olympiad training at p1? :faint:

I tell you, one day only got 24 hrs hor. I really cannot squeeze any more time out for Maths Olympiad training for ds. Unless I limit him to 5 hrs of sleep a day :evil: . Joking only, even I'm not so crazy ok.

If you hv seen samples of exam papers for MA, then you wld see such MO qns appearing in section B, usu 1 to 2 qns. U want your boy to score full marks, then need to start on these.[/quote]I agree with Mrsbongz. It's scary to read the posts here sometimes :shock:

[Jennifer]

E3:

Jennifer:

Definitely not all. Pupils to be recommended by the class MA teacher and then to be approved by the HOD MA.

These are for the ones going for the Math Olympiad Competitions, right?

Was php referring to those training for competitions or training for doing upper pri Math exam papers?

When the MA teacher called us up, she did not specify these training are for the MO competitions, but so happened, most pupils who went for the training did go for the competitions.

Not many pupils obtained platinium awards in the MO competition. I think it is either the 8 sessions are insufficient or the content of the training is not up to the competition stds. I know of one schmate who also attends xx centre got a platinium.

[verykiasu2010]

you guys need to differentiate math training for :


1.) Math Olympiad competitions :(RI< NMOS, SMPOS, AMC, etc etc); versus

2.) Math training to tackle higher order math questions within scope of PSLE

there are sometime some questions in PSLE that is of math olympiad style, but not may, and not often…these are supposed the "killer" questions under normal PSLE candidates…some kids are prepared for it - depending how resourceful the teachers are as well as the learning pace of the kids too

[Jennifer]

markfch:

Jennifer:

[quote=\"markfch\"]
Maths Olympiad training at p1? :faint:

I tell you, one day only got 24 hrs hor. I really cannot squeeze any more time out for Maths Olympiad training for ds. Unless I limit him to 5 hrs of sleep a day :evil: . Joking only, even I'm not so crazy ok.

If you hv seen samples of exam papers for MA, then you wld see such MO qns appearing in section B, usu 1 to 2 qns. U want your boy to score full marks, then need to start on these.

I agree with Mrsbongz. It's scary to read the posts here sometimes :shock:[/quote]At least you are now mentally prepared. Imagine some of us who were blur blur with our first child in this sch.

[verykiasu2010]

sometime the school has a "math club"…and that is not meant for math olympiad competition training


some school make students sit for selected test before allowing them to join the math club

some school has an "advancec math club" from which the school team for math olympiad is picked

some school don’t formerly form a team, any one who wants to participate in the math olympiad competition will be endorsed

[Jennifer]

php:

For example, a excess/shortage question. there are 3 ways to solve, MO way, heuristic method and \"old uncle\" way - algebra which is also fall under MO method. At least 70%/80% of the PSLE questions can be solved using algebra. So if a kid is weak in modelling and heuristic approach, knowledge in MO and algebra will help....

U will find algebra a very simple topic covered in P6 textbook. No simultaneous equation taught.

I tried teaching my elder boy algebra last year, he refused to learn it, citing the MA teacher does not encourage this method for pri sch pupils.

[kohhweelin.010441gmail.010441com]

Jennifer:

E3:

[quote=\"Jennifer\"]Definitely not all. Pupils to be recommended by the class MA teacher and then to be approved by the HOD MA.

These are for the ones going for the Math Olympiad Competitions, right?

Was php referring to those training for competitions or training for doing upper pri Math exam papers?

When the MA teacher called us up, she did not specify these training are for the MO competitions, but so happened, most pupils who went for the training did go for the competitions.[/quote]Jennifer, thanks for your clarification.

[kohhweelin.010441gmail.010441com]

php:

For example, a excess/shortage question. there are 3 ways to solve, MO way, heuristic method and \"old uncle\" way - algebra which is also fall under MO method. At least 70%/80% of the PSLE questions can be solved using algebra. So if a kid is weak in modelling and heuristic approach, knowledge in MO and algebra will help...

Some kids can 'visualize' these kind of questions in their brains, in other words, they could do it mentally. However, PSLE requires a method to be clearly shown so it's better to let the kids familiarize themselves with methods that they are comfortable with asap.

[php]

Jennifer:

php:

For example, a excess/shortage question. there are 3 ways to solve, MO way, heuristic method and \"old uncle\" way - algebra which is also fall under MO method. At least 70%/80% of the PSLE questions can be solved using algebra. So if a kid is weak in modelling and heuristic approach, knowledge in MO and algebra will help....

U will find algebra a very simple topic covered in P6 textbook. No simultaneous equation taught.

I tried teaching my elder boy algebra last year, he refused to learn it, citing the MA teacher does not encourage this method for pri sch pupils.

Some kids have difficulty drawing model...If they have knowledge in algebra, they can work backward to derive the model...it is much easier...

when come to exam, if you can't solve the problem using heuristic approach, put your answer down in algebra and you will still get full marks if your have the correct answer. they can't mark you wrong...