RI or HCI

[WeiHan]

atutor2001:

Way2GO:

[quote=\"atutor2001\"] There is something special about RV's culture. Before RV goes IP, most of their top O-level students went on to be among the top scholars in RJ. Won't be surprised if RV catches up with RI & HCI in a few years time. But only one setback I noted - they are super hardworking. :lol:

Why would u consider \"super hardworking\" a setback? :?

Spending too much time studying - actually they already very good. Should relax more and engage in other activities and they will still perform equally well. That is why setback - too focus on study.[/quote]Maybe our perception is different. I thought RV's students are quite playful one. You go to you tube and you'll find some playful clips that RV's students have made, be it for CNY celebrations or other things. I don't find this kind of stuffs for RI and HCI students.

[Way2GO]

atutor2001:

Spending too much time studying - actually they already very good. Should relax more and engage in other activities and they will still perform equally well. That is why setback - too focus on study.

OIC. Agree students shd develop in different aspects besides study.
My DS relates about a classmate who is always burrowed in books n
is physically un-coordinated (my words) n jokes dat he is a walking fountain of knowledge.
He is one of d top students in his class.
I think its too one sided development.

[Chenonceau]

All the posturing by the various schools HCI, RI and RV (see also RV thread) on their websites is a result of some silly journalist who plugged a headline without properly examining the numbers (and perhaps presenting them).


Something called "balanced reporting". All the journalist needed to do was tabulate and report. The headline that is hot enough to light a fire in too many hearts was unnecessary.

It has set off some sensitivities and created unnecessary tension, and instigated the various schools (and their partisans) to show the ugly faces of competitiveness. If things get worse, we will soon be laughing at our nation’s top educational institutions.

We’re not yet there though…

And at the end of the day, the school who comes out smelling like roses, will be the one which demonstrates the greatest restraint and gentlemanliness. And since most parents care about character as much as results, that will be the school with competitive edge in recruiting students.

[Way2GO]

Chenonceau:

All the posturing by the various schools HCI, RI and RV ....

Chenonceau, your post is a good reminder.
However, take some of the banter here light-heartedly.
As in HCI networking thread, VK2010 understood I was
just taking a dig at his posting n we left it at dat with

:celebrate:

[wonderm]

atutor2001:

thsheng99:

Comparing the common available info from RI and HCI, it seems that RI is doing much better than HCI across the board


RI have 3 scholars of 9 distinctions where HCI has 1

RI has 76 eight distinctions and above, HCI has 60

RI has 331 having perfect scores where HCI has 94. This is more than 3.5 times more than HCI

RI have 53% scoring distinctions in GP. HCI has 40%

Thanks for the summary. Looking at the perfect score category, RI & HCI together produce 425 of them. If we add the other JCs I think the total will be about at least 450. It is really tough to get into medicine (only about 260 places).

RI has 130 perfect scorers, see their website. Don't think all the top students are aiming to go medicine. So there is still chance for those who are keen

[atutor2001]

wonderm:

RI has 130 perfect scorers, see their website. Don't think all the top students are aiming to go medicine. So there is still chance for those who are keen

Hi wonderm,
Actually I am quite confused by the definition of perfect scorers. If I am not wrong, the 130 perfect scorers in the website refers to students with A's for all subjects including HMT. On the other hand, the figure on \"6 distinction\" refers to students with A's for the 4 A level subjects, GP and PW. The website also stated that there are 504 students with at least 4 A's. I assume this must be students with AAAA for all the 4 subjects (excluding GP). It is amazing. During my time only 1 student in the whole country got all 5As.

[wonderm]

atutor2001:

wonderm:

RI has 130 perfect scorers, see their website. Don't think all the top students are aiming to go medicine. So there is still chance for those who are keen

Hi wonderm,
Actually I am quite confused by the definition of perfect scorers. If I am not wrong, the 130 perfect scorers in the website refers to students with A's for all subjects including HMT. On the other hand, the figure on \"6 distinction\" refers to students with A's for the 4 A level subjects, GP and PW. The website also stated that there are 504 students with at least 4 A's. I assume this must be students with AAAA for all the 4 subjects (excluding GP). It is amazing. During my time only 1 student in the whole country got all 5As.

It is true it seems to be \"easier\" to get As as time passes.

[atutor2001]

wonderm:

It is true it seems to be \"easier\" to get As as time passes.

Yes the number of top scorers make it appears to be so easy to get all A's. I teased my kids that questions nowadays must be easier. They got upset and started confronting me with their A level questions. I realised that these straight As students are really good. The overall standard has been raised so many folds compared to my time. Sometimes I really feel sad for the poor students. But then \"for the sake of their future\", I am still using this stupid line to my youngest one - \"If others can do it, so can you\" - although deep in my heart, I know it is easier said than done and as long as they have done their best, I am satisfied.

[WeiHan]

atutor2001:

wonderm:

It is true it seems to be \"easier\" to get As as time passes.

Yes the number of top scorers make it appears to be so easy to get all A's. I teased my kids that questions nowadays must be easier. They got upset and started confronting me with their A level questions. I realised that these straight As students are really good. The overall standard has been raised so many folds compared to my time. Sometimes I really feel sad for the poor students. But then \"for the sake of their future\", I am still using this stupid line to my youngest one - \"If others can do it, so can you\" - although deep in my heart, I know it is easier said than done and as long as they have done their best, I am satisfied.

Hi,

The questions that they have to answer are indeed easier. Even H3 modules nowaday are easier than the old days special papars. H3 modules are university freshman modules, they are new materials but the questions for the exams are usually straightforward. In contrast, special papers questions are usually more difficult and require some twisting in the thinking in order to solve them.

I was commenting to my colleague that kids nowadays seems to have to cope with more things like project works and research attachment and they seems to learn more stuffs. He replied that although they seem to learn more stuffs, it is in the expense of depth, and thus their problem solving skills are not as good as in the past. They do not know how to solve problems that they have not seen before. And this is refering to good students from top schools that have opportunity for research attachment with him.

[atutor2001]

WeiHan:

Hi,

The questions that they have to answer are indeed easier. Even H3 modules nowaday are easier than the old days special papars. H3 modules are university freshman modules, they are new materials but the questions for the exams are usually straightforward. In contrast, special papers questions are usually more difficult and require some twisting in the thinking in order to solve them.

I was commenting to my colleague that kids nowadays seems to have to cope with more things like project works and research attachment and they seems to learn more stuffs. He replied that although they seem to learn more stuffs, it is in the expense of depth, and thus their problem solving skills are not as good as in the past. They do not know how to solve problems that they have not seen before. And this is refering to good students from top schools that have opportunity for research attachment with him.

I am so sorry that I have no knowledge of special papers at all. They were after my time and before my kids time. So I guess I am wrong if we compare the current syllabus to the syllabus slightly earlier.

I definitely agree with the your friend's comment that \"They do not know how to solve problems that they have not seen before.\" I think this is the outcome of over emphasis on results and grades.

By the way, I wonder whether MOE has the raw scores just like PSLE. Otherwise how can they tell the difference when awarding scholarshipn - with so many people getting the same grades.