Pei Hwa Presbyterian Primary

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lizhi:

E3:

Ermmm...have not seen the paper so can't be sure whether it's really that tough. I guess it's more demanding compared to last year's papers cos it has included 造句, and the time given was only 1 h 15 mins for a 100 mark paper. I heard that some kids from the cohort couldn't complete the papers.

就造句本身， 我想老师批阅也有差异。
比如， 用‘努力’造句， “我要更加努力学习”这个句子， 其实没有问题。 但老师批阅为是错误的造句。
所谓造句： 是用词语组织句子。句子的结构多种， 最基本的是主谓宾结构。
“我要更加努力学习”句子表达的意思是， 我要学习。
老师把它改成 “我要更加努力学习， 取得好成绩”这句子结构就变了， 而表达的意思却是， 我要取得成绩。
同样阅读理解也有相应的问题， 有的题目把问题引入含糊不清的境地， 孩子们无从做出清晰的判断。 当然， 语言功力深的孩子， 应付某种华而不实的表象还是可以做到的。

Lizhi,

我很了解妳满肚的怨气。关于造句, 老师从小一开始就已经强调尽量不要写太短的句子, 因为不能真正把词语的原意表达出来, 所以我吩咐女儿要发挥,句子当中一定要有至少一个逗号。 在考试前一天, 她练习造句, 并把二十个列句给背了起来, 而且所出的五题都全中了!

\"老师把它改成 “我要更加努力学习， 取得好成绩”这句子结构就变了， 而表达的意思却是， 我要取得成绩。\"

我想老师是要学生把\"努力学习\"的后果也写出来, 就是\"考取好成绩\"。我女儿还加了\"让父母亲感到骄傲。\"

至于\"语言功力深的孩子\", 妳说小三的孩子, 九岁的孩子, 还未成熟, 他们的功力能有多深厚呢? 我女儿就败在那\"含糊不清的境地\"咯!

[S6169]

lizhi:

E3:

Ermmm...have not seen the paper so can't be sure whether it's really that tough. I guess it's more demanding compared to last year's papers cos it has included 造句, and the time given was only 1 h 15 mins for a 100 mark paper. I heard that some kids from the cohort couldn't complete the papers.

就造句本身， 我想老师批阅也有差异。
比如， 用‘努力’造句， “我要更加努力学习”这个句子， 其实没有问题。 但老师批阅为是错误的造句。
所谓造句： 是用词语组织句子。句子的结构多种， 最基本的是主谓宾结构。
“我要更加努力学习”句子表达的意思是， 我要学习。
老师把它改成 “我要更加努力学习， 取得好成绩”这句子结构就变了， 而表达的意思却是， 我要取得成绩。
同样阅读理解也有相应的问题， 有的题目把问题引入含糊不清的境地， 孩子们无从做出清晰的判断。 当然， 语言功力深的孩子， 应付某种华而不实的表象还是可以做到的。

According to my son 造句 must make a longer sentence in between use one comma. Last year, we didn't follow this and only got half marks for each 造句. This year 吸取教训, die die must follow, he got full marks for his 造句. :lol:

[lizhi]

E3:

lizhi:

[quote=\"E3\"]Ermmm...have not seen the paper so can't be sure whether it's really that tough. I guess it's more demanding compared to last year's papers cos it has included 造句, and the time given was only 1 h 15 mins for a 100 mark paper. I heard that some kids from the cohort couldn't complete the papers.

就造句本身， 我想老师批阅也有差异。
比如， 用‘努力’造句， “我要更加努力学习”这个句子， 其实没有问题。 但老师批阅为是错误的造句。
所谓造句： 是用词语组织句子。句子的结构多种， 最基本的是主谓宾结构。
“我要更加努力学习”句子表达的意思是， 我要学习。
老师把它改成 “我要更加努力学习， 取得好成绩”这句子结构就变了， 而表达的意思却是， 我要取得成绩。
同样阅读理解也有相应的问题， 有的题目把问题引入含糊不清的境地， 孩子们无从做出清晰的判断。 当然， 语言功力深的孩子， 应付某种华而不实的表象还是可以做到的。

Lizhi,

我很了解妳满肚的怨气。关于造句, 老师从小一开始就已经强调尽量不要写太短的句子, 因为不能真正把词语的原意表达出来, 所以我吩咐女儿要发挥,句子当中一定要有至少一个逗号。 在考试前一天, 她练习造句, 并把二十个列句给背了起来, 而且所出的五题都全中了!

至于\"语言功力深的孩子\", 妳说小三的孩子, 九岁的孩子, 还未成熟, 他们的功力能有多深厚呢? 我女儿就败在那\"含糊不清的境地\"咯! [/quote]还不至于满肚子的怨气， 因为我还能理解这里的语言学习方式。其实默写里也存在错误明显的句子。应对考试，E3做得相当出色，感觉指导方法狠，准， 稳兼具，实在是值得我们好好学习。

[S6169]

IJJ:

Actually, I am more anxious to know the class median if not, average, rather than the highest. Some of these kids at the top...I 望尘莫及. :lol:

Yes, same here. This year CA1, shocked by the EL cos under our expectation and surprised by CL cos much higher than our expectation. :?

[kohhweelin.010441gmail.010441com]

S6169:

According to my son 造句 must make a longer sentence in between use one comma. Last year, we didn't follow this and only got half marks for each 造句. This year 吸取教训, die die must follow, he got full marks for his 造句. :lol:

So far, for P1 and P2, they were not so strict although teachers did emphasise on bringing out the meaning in the sentences. It was during the class practices that we realised that P3 teachers will penalise if the sentence only has a single fullstop. Apparently, it seems incomplete. For eg. During one of the practices, my dd wrote for 参观: 老师带同学们去参观玩具工厂。 It was penalised so instead of teacher's suggestion of adding \"大家都很开心\" after a comma, we changed it to add \"大家都学了很多知识。\" to learn for the exam if it ever comes out.

However, it's not for all cases, sometimes one full-stop is enough if the sentence is meaningful. For eg. 自由自在: 五颜六色的风筝在天空中自由自在地飘来飘去。 is good enough.

[S6169]

Jennifer:

S6169:

[quote=\"IJJ\"]
You mean Mdm Chen? Yes, she is Twk9 FT, why cannot meet then?

my son said she will be very busy for her own class and the column for math teacher's location is also empty in the form. :lol:

Surely not?

My boy misplaced the form, I emailed the FT to get a time slot.[/quote]Not sure, Jennifer. may be today the teacher will fill in. Yesterday, no time slot was given and ds said will give today.

[Happy Mama]

E3:

S6169:

According to my son 造句 must make a longer sentence in between use one comma. Last year, we didn't follow this and only got half marks for each 造句. This year 吸取教训, die die must follow, he got full marks for his 造句. :lol:

So far, for P1 and P2, they were not so strict although teachers did emphasise on bringing out the meaning in the sentences. It was during the class practices that we realised that P3 teachers will penalise if the sentence only has a single fullstop. Apparently, it seems incomplete. For eg. During one of the practices, my dd wrote for 参观: 老师带同学们去参观玩具工厂。 It was penalised so instead of teacher's suggestion of adding \"大家都很开心\" after a comma, we changed it to add \"大家都学了很多知识。\" to learn for the exam if it ever comes out.

However, it's not for all cases, sometimes one full-stop is enough if the sentence is meaningful. For eg. 自由自在: 五颜六色的风筝在天空中自由自在地飘来飘去。 is good enough.

I also reminded DD several times before her CL paper not to write short abrupt sentences. I told her those are ok for P1 and P2, but Teacher will definitely penalise her if she writes those in P3. She giggled whenever I teased her about short and abrupt sentences.

[lizhi]

S6169:

According to my son 造句 must make a longer sentence in between use one comma. Last year, we didn't follow this and only got half marks for each 造句. This year 吸取教训, die die must follow, he got full marks for his 造句. :lol:

:celebrate: yes, 吸取教训.

[JoeeYee]

lizhi:

就造句本身， 我想老师批阅也有差异。

比如， 用‘努力’造句， “我要更加努力学习”这个句子， 其实没有问题。 但老师批阅为是错误的造句。
所谓造句： 是用词语组织句子。句子的结构多种， 最基本的是主谓宾结构。
“我要更加努力学习”句子表达的意思是， 我要学习。
老师把它改成 “我要更加努力学习， 取得好成绩”这句子结构就变了， 而表达的意思却是， 我要取得成绩。
同样阅读理解也有相应的问题， 有的题目把问题引入含糊不清的境地， 孩子们无从做出清晰的判断。 当然， 语言功力深的孩子， 应付某种华而不实的表象还是可以做到的。

Agree totally. Sometimes I have problem explaining to my dd why her original answer is wrong as I myself could not agree to the teacher's modification.

E3:

Lizhi,
关于造句, 老师从小一开始就已经强调尽量不要写太短的句子, 因为不能真正把词语的原意表达出来, 所以我吩咐女儿要发挥,句子当中一定要有至少一个逗号。 在考试前一天, 她练习造句, 并把二十个列句给背了起来, 而且所出的五题都全中了!

Didn't know that!! Thanks for the 指点。

lizhi:

应对考试，E3做得相当出色，感觉指导方法狠，准， 稳兼具，实在是值得我们好好学习。

Totally agree. I'm her 100% fan!! :udawoman:

[Jennifer]

S6169:

According to my son 造句 must make a longer sentence in between use one comma.

Your boy is good to remember this. Mine? \"Got meh?\", \"teacher did not say what!\"