Teachers from India join S'pore schools

[tamarind]

b2b3m4:

Tamarind,

I totally understand your situation. After numerous problems with maids. I quitted my previous job in the hospital bcos I simply I can't put in the kind of hours required in the hospital when DD2 came along. Shift works, night calls and all. In the end, I traded my exciting hosipital work for a more office hours one. And in replacement, my boss took in philipinos to do the job. A case of foreign talent replacing singaporeans in a job?

At least you have a choice of jobs. I don't have any choice. After my ex-company told me to leave due to \"re-structuring\", I sent out countless letters to look for jobs, and I only managed to find one job. Fortunately, it is a job that I like very much, teaching ! Though it is not exactly an office job and can be very tiring.

[daddybear]

tamarind:

I used to have an ex-colleague in his 40s, university graduate in engineering, worked as a manager before. He was desperate to get a job, applied to MOE, but was rejected. His results in university were very good. I don't really understand what sort of people MOE are looking for.

Have you read the famous Derek Wee's blog ?
http://derekwee.blogspot.com/2006_10_01_archive.html

Thats really crazy... That means normal people with ordinary results can kiss their MOE application hopes good bye... I often wonder what lies ahead in the 40s. Have to focus on the thread... Yes, I would like to understand MOE's criteria too.

Hm, is this the blog that led to the famous \"get out of my elite uncaring face\" quote by one of the daughter of the elite class? His thoughts are reflected in plenty of places.

[b2b3m4]

Tamarind,

I know that I am very lucky that I can still get a office hour job but of cos with just as much a pay cut. I know of many others who do not have a choice like mine. Mothers who need to fly often, glamorous on the outside but tough on the inside. Besides a pay cut, careers advancement and all is zero simply I can’t go beyond 6pm. Call me a quitter, I am one of those of which make the govt bring in foreign talent.

Daddybear,
Same job, same pay scale. Yes u are right to point out I am wrong bcos no one wld do the same thing they did 20 years ago at the same pay they receive 20 years ago. Yes, same job, same thing. But pay must increase bcos of inflation, increase in cost & standard of living. The reason for the lost of job is bcos these are the same poeple who are so comfortable in theor work that they are resistant to change. There are so many courses & books out there telling one how to adapt to changes, how to aware of changes before it is too late. Can u name me a job that is done the same way that is done 20 years ago short of a traditional skill. Even for something like art, music & sports, along the way one need to prepare for change. As parents, can we use the same method as our parents? 10 years down the road, one still cant use the internet, one know as a parent one is very much lagging behind. When one don’t make constant changes, in 10-20 years down the road, when made to take up a totally different role bcos their job were made redundant, they feel victimized and thought of that it was a case of foreign talent taking over their job.
To share a very real scenario, many a times, these FT are over qualified for the job. But bcos their degrees are not recognized locally, they ended up being my subordinate holding a technical position instead of their real profession. My staff in their 50’s now still hold their jobs but they admit its tough and lament of the past easier times when customers (or patients in my context) are so much easier to handle. Tell them what to do and no one question why. Now one needs to be constantly audited, answer complicated question from the public and still put on good manners and fast service. I pity my 50 year old staff but u as a public standing on the other end. Can u accept slow, nonchalant service given by public health in the past? Or wld u say pity my staff and say I dun mind waiting for another hour bcos my staff is already doing their part?

[b2b3m4]

Talking about being retrenched at 40 and changes in society. This is really off topic but i just can’t help but to share this…


In the past, it is mandatory for food handlers or hawkers to receive yearly typhoid vaccination to prevent the spread of typhoid. MOH must have realised that SG is safe enough and removed this vaccination and in place put in courses and tests for safe food handling. (esp after the Geylang Serai food poisoning incident). My 60 year soo kueh auntie tells me, "Wa liao, at my age still want me to study, if i can study still need to sell soo kueh?" "Miss, it is ok lah… please give me the jab instead lah!!!"

[Daddy D]

True that MOE's teaching job may not be the best paying in our job market... unless you're those superscale fellas...

For the SG fresh grads... it's one with low starting pay... esp when they compare with their peers in other fields...
For the SG mid-careers... it's one with big pay cuts... and long hours...
But for the FTs (majority)... it's one with better pay and perks... esp when they compare with their own local country (*Exclude those minority 1st world country fellas)

So really, who are the ones with greater passion for teaching?
:celebrate:

[LLK]

I agree. With that kind of pay in S$, FTs from PRC and India surely are more than happy to teach or work here. I Hope MOE and other Ministries would employ only the really talented and committed FTs.

[kiddo]

Daddy

True that MOE's teaching job may not be the best paying in our job market... unless you're those superscale fellas...

For the SG fresh grads... it's one with low starting pay... esp when they compare with their peers in other fields...
For the SG mid-careers... it's one with big pay cuts... and long hours...
But for the FTs (majority)... it's one with better pay and perks... esp when they compare with their own local country (*Exclude those minority 1st world country fellas)

So really, who are the ones with greater passion for teaching?
:celebrate:

Alamak Daddy D .....you categorised it so well ...how to go into teaching
liao lah ???
:rotflmao:

Kudos to teachers who teach because it a calling and a passion :celebrate:

[pinky]

daddybear:

tamarind:

I used to have an ex-colleague in his 40s, university graduate in engineering, worked as a manager before. He was desperate to get a job, applied to MOE, but was rejected. His results in university were very good. I don't really understand what sort of people MOE are looking for.

Have you read the famous Derek Wee's blog ?
http://derekwee.blogspot.com/2006_10_01_archive.html

Thats really crazy... That means normal people with ordinary results can kiss their MOE application hopes good bye... I often wonder what lies ahead in the 40s. Have to focus on the thread... Yes, I would like to understand MOE's criteria too.

Hm, is this the blog that led to the famous \"get out of my elite uncaring face\" quote by one of the daughter of the elite class? His thoughts are reflected in plenty of places.

maybe they require local applicants to have very good English results
and PASSION

[LOLMum]

b2b3m4:

Ok, I am ready to be bashed. I prefer to see things on the other side of the fence. If it had been a Australian , Briton or Scottish with a strong accent teaching our kids, would we be protesting so much? Or would we see that it is privileged to be taught by these teachers???.

nope, not all ang mo are fluent in english. and i have had my fair share of meeting them.

and i am not bashing you or anyone. :nunchuk: nope nope

my english is not good so i need someone who can help my kids. but if the australian, briton or scot has a strong accent which makes it difficult to understand, i might change the teacher. but kids are strange, they tend to understand them better than i do so if my kids like it, then so be it.

however, i also need to watch out for the kind of values they might be imparting to my kids especailly dd during talks, discussions etc.

a bit off topic, i wish someone could cancel the bi-lingual programmes on the chinese radio channels like 88.3. my english is bad but the djs are really.............. :!: :faint:

[Happy Mama]

LOLMum:

a bit off topic, i wish someone could cancel the bi-lingual programmes on the chinese radio channels like 88.3. my english is bad but the djs are really.............. :!: :faint:

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: Yes the DJs there speak CHEENAFIED English.