Petition to Review the Singapore Education System

[chubby08]

It’s time for the new MP of eductation to look into this issue. The ex one must be sleeping throughout the past few years…

[janet88]

chubby08:

It's time for the new MP of eductation to look into this issue. The ex one must be sleeping throughout the past few years...

The former education minister has been asked to go to defence...pardon me for saying this...hope he doesn't screw up that ministry. He hasn't done anything to improve his former portfolio :stompfeet:

My son actually wanted to continue with his English enrichment as he fears for the subject...passing narrowly for SA1. But I cannot afford to let him do so bcos he just started 1-to-1 Math.

[jenao]

I hope the new minister is actually listening and hearing the feedback instead of just wayang to "engage the people" like they did with the mother tongue weighting and at the end after stakeholders make lots of noise, back to same old same old, parents not really heard. And if changes need to be made, they have to be substance not form like the teach less learn more approach.


Post GE, there is a lot of talk about listening to the people, engaging them and then transforming the system etc etc like the National Development, transport, mcys etc have been very very visible in engaging people. Hopefully, all these are not for show at the end of the day.

[vlim]

ironically, I am scared that they make changes…though is stressful now, at least we as a parent, we know how/what to prepare our kids for the exam…But if they change…I might ‘catch no ball’…that is what happen to my p3 dd…I don’t know how to prepare her for science exam as they practise ‘learn more,teach less’…and I don’t know what have they learn!..

So is the system that make the kids stress, or the desire for our kids to perform well in exams so that they can get into good school that make our kids and us stress?..I wouldn’t want to put all the blame to the system as I believe other countries kids also facing the similar education stress…as it is no longer like our time. As long as we pass the school exam, our parents would be happy…

[sall]

In some of the posts, parents complain that teachers never teach at all, or can’t finish the syllabus etc. I think it’s not fair to make such statements. There are very dedicated teachers , there are also some bad teachers. But on the whole, teachers are so tied down with so many prog organised. Some teachers have to miss lessons to attend to such activities such as hosting foreign students, visitors and many more. These are the demands of the principals, please don’t blame the poor over-worked teachers. I just talked to a current P1 teacher, who told about the reports she had to make for each student, for each assignment. This is just one example of the many unnecessary tasks a sch teacher has to do. For this petition, I think the welfare of teachers should also be taken into account.

[kitty2]

janet_lee88:

chubby08:

It's time for the new MP of eductation to look into this issue. The ex one must be sleeping throughout the past few years...

The former education minister has been asked to go to defence...pardon me for saying this...hope he doesn't screw up that ministry. He hasn't done anything to improve his former portfolio :stompfeet:

My son actually wanted to continue with his English enrichment as he fears for the subject...passing narrowly for SA1. But I cannot afford to let him do so bcos he just started 1-to-1 Math.

My friends were saying all the best to all the army guys

[jesschan]

sall:

In some of the posts, parents complain that teachers never teach at all, or can't finish the syllabus etc. I think it's not fair to make such statements. There are very dedicated teachers , there are also some bad teachers. But on the whole, teachers are so tied down with so many prog organised. Some teachers have to miss lessons to attend to such activities such as hosting foreign students, visitors and many more. These are the demands of the principals, please don't blame the poor over-worked teachers. I just talked to a current P1 teacher, who told about the reports she had to make for each student, for each assignment. This is just one example of the many unnecessary tasks a sch teacher has to do. For this petition, I think the welfare of teachers should also be taken into account.

Yes, I also agree that there are some very dedicated teachers who do a lot of extra stuff to help the kids. Unfortunately, what they do may not be measurable and have gone unnoticed by their supervisors. I hope more parents can write in to the schools to commend on good teachers so that their supervisors are aware and hopefully reward them duly.

[Chenonceau]

sall:

In some of the posts, parents complain that teachers never teach at all, or can't finish the syllabus etc. I think it's not fair to make such statements. There are very dedicated teachers , there are also some bad teachers. But on the whole, teachers are so tied down with so many prog organised. Some teachers have to miss lessons to attend to such activities such as hosting foreign students, visitors and many more. These are the demands of the principals, please don't blame the poor over-worked teachers. I just talked to a current P1 teacher, who told about the reports she had to make for each student, for each assignment. This is just one example of the many unnecessary tasks a sch teacher has to do. For this petition, I think the welfare of teachers should also be taken into account.

I've been watching this thread. I think there is enough awareness that teachers cannot cope... and there has not been undue teacher bashing, at least not in this thread. The petition is not about bad teachers. The petition wants a system review from which teachers also benefit. I re-read this thread quickly and saw little teacher bashing.

It is clear that teachers are helpless against the system. Right now, there are many unhappy teachers too... some of whom have asked for change.

Parents may have stated that teachers don't teach everything and can't cover the syllabus. These are just statements of factual experience. They, in fact, don't cover everything tested in exams. This can be due to bad teachers or an over-extended syllabus. The general agreement is that it is an over-extended syllabus which Teachers cannot cope with, even if dedicated.

[Chenonceau]

jesschan:

Yes, I also agree that there are some very dedicated teachers who do a lot of extra stuff to help the kids. Unfortunately, what they do may not be measurable and have gone unnoticed by their supervisors. I hope more parents can write in to the schools to commend on good teachers so that their supervisors are aware and hopefully reward them duly.

Here is an example of a GREAT teacher.
http://petunialee.blogspot.com/2010/05/ms-priscilla-see.html

I wrote this and emailed the Principal the link. Teachers like that deserve encouragement but much of what they do cannot be measured.

Looking at the sheer volume of content to be covered by P5 SA1 (particularly the process skills) I seriously doubt whether even such a dedicated teacher could completely and thoroughly deal with all the content.

Teachers suffer too... especially the good ones, who feel the demands keenly. Those switched off ones can't be bothered... so they'll just mosey along and close one eye to everything. My DS has one teacher like that this year - jaded and tired. Over time, dedicated teachers may also become desensitized just to feel less stressed. Over time, when enough teachers feel discouraged, you have a teaching service which loses sight of its true purpose. Many leave and others focus only on measurable KPIs and promotion opportunities.

[Peony]

My DD only has two subject teachers in school.


Her FT who has to teach 3 subjects and her MT teacher who only teaches 1 subject, but 2 different levels.

Her FT has no time to teach as much as she’d like to as she simply does not have the time (30 mins a lesson). The MT teacher teaches much more - think it is a tad easier when you just focus on one subject.

Am I preferring one teacher over another? No. While I’m happy one gets to teach more, I do appreciate both as I do see that both are doing their best given their constraints.

How does this impact DD? With less teaching in English, Maths and Science, she is unable to do the class tests and revision. Coz while teaching is reduced, the testing (which also causes more work for teachers) is not and what the student is required to know is also not reduced.

Hence, mums like me, are not pointing our fingers at nor bashing teachers. But without teaching, how do they learn? Kids attend school but most of the learning has to come from somewhere else.

I cannot speak for other schools, but in my DD’s, those who are coping just fine either have parents, tutors or enrichment centres that do most of the teaching.

Am always sad for those who have neither of the three.