2011 Request for Advice on Selecting Secondary Schools
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phtthp:
SCGS now IP with St Nick girls and Catholic High boys.
compare CGS with SCGS, seems like CGS stronger academically.
how about compare CGS with St. Nick, who stronger ?
St. Nick. has better O level results. But comparision is taking bit too far. St Nick is a SAP school ... you have to be very strong in Languages with HMT mandatory.
You can get by with average language skill in CGS -
for girls - seems like after NYGS and RGSS, the next top school is St Nick, followed by CGS, then SCGS, MGS and Cedar in this order ?
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phtthp:
for girls - seems like after NYGS and RGSS, the next top school is St Nick, followed by CGS, then SCGS, MGS and Cedar in this order ?
I don't think it's possible to list the top girls schools in a definite order because what criteria should we use? We can't compare RGS and NYGH to the others because they don't offer O levels, but based on COPs we can safely conclude that they are the top two girls schools.
Based on 2010 COPs, we can say the order is SCGS, MGS, SNGS, Cedar and lastly Crescent.
Based on O level results, I believe all are Tier 1 schools with students in the Top 34 O level scorers list.
It's better to look at value-added by the school and how the cohort performed as a whole rather than a few bright sparks who made it to the top scorer list. I would look at the cohort's PSLE results and how well the cohort fares at O levels. If a school takes in a girl who scored 200 at PSLE and is able to do well at O levels, that to me is a sign of a good school who is able to develop a child to her full potential. -
jtoh:
If COP is used as criteria, you also have to look at no of affliated & non- afflliated students each school takes & calculate average PSLE score of typical students entering each school. Ofcourse these data is not available, but if you use these method, Order will be Cedar & Crescent then followed by MGS & SCGS. Both MGS , St. nick & SCGS takes students from respective primary at score of 220 , 213 & 200 respectively.phtthp:
for girls - seems like after NYGS and RGSS, the next top school is St Nick, followed by CGS, then SCGS, MGS and Cedar in this order ?
I don't think it's possible to list the top girls schools in a definite order because what criteria should we use
Based on 2010 COPs, we can say the order is SCGS, MGS, SNGS, Cedar and lastly Crescent.
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You also have to factor-in \"Independent' schools as their Fee is $250 per month against \"autonomous' which charge $13 month. -
wah! $250 school fees per mth (SCGS, MGS) vs. $13 government schools (St. Nick, Cresecent, Cedar) - is a huge difference! No wonder SCGS, MGS girls tend to come from rich families!
compare Crescent and Cedar - which school stronger in Science subjects ? Cedar IP with Victoria boys, but Crecsent din IP. means Cedar stronger than Cresecent ?
perhaps we can rename topic of this thread to "SCGS vs. Cresecent & Other Girls’ schools"… make it more interesting! -
DadOfGirl:
If COP is used as criteria, you also have to look at no of affliated & non- afflliated students each school takes & calculate average PSLE score of typical students entering each school. Ofcourse these data is not available, but if you use these method, Order will be Cedar & Crescent then followed by MGS & SCGS. Both MGS , St. nick & SCGS takes students from respective primary at score of 220 , 213 & 200 respectively.jtoh:
[quote=\"phtthp\"]for girls - seems like after NYGS and RGSS, the next top school is St Nick, followed by CGS, then SCGS, MGS and Cedar in this order ?
I don't think it's possible to list the top girls schools in a definite order because what criteria should we use
Based on 2010 COPs, we can say the order is SCGS, MGS, SNGS, Cedar and lastly Crescent.
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You also have to factor-in \"Independent' schools as their Fee is $250 per month against \"autonomous' which charge $13 month.[/quote]Yes, obviously you have to look at affiliated COPs. Which led me to my next point in my original post that schools which offer better value-add are better schools. Schools which take in students at 200, 220 etc who still manage to do well at O levels are the better schools in my book. Strong students in, Strong results out is not as valuable as Average students in, Good results out. -
MGS and SCGS are really good schools with long history, all rounded curriculum and condusive learning environment. Many parents are concern whether their girls are able to integrate into the "elite" background if join in Sec 1, a valid concern, but the fact is many girls also come from ordinary families from P1. The high school fees also mean that the schools are better equipped in terms of facilities, teaching staff, etc.
SCGS has raised its affiliation cut-off point to 220 for 2011. Not sure about MGS though. These schools are strong academically and emphasize character building, community projects etc which contribute to an all rounded education. Music, arts, dance annd sports are fully integtared and valued.
Crescent girls is good in its own right and have made progess. But these are clearly two different categories of schools. -
shaber:
Raising Cut-off point should continue as these schools are awarded to run IP program. It will have to scrap affliation completely by the time entire Cohort of Sec 1 batch goes directly to A-level.MGS and SCGS are really good schools with long history, all rounded curriculum and condusive learning environment. Many parents are concern whether their girls are able to integrate into the \"elite\" background if join in Sec 1, a valid concern, but the fact is many girls also come from ordinary families from P1. The high school fees also mean that the schools are better equipped in terms of facilities, teaching staff, etc.
SCGS has raised its affiliation cut-off point to 220 for 2011. Not sure about MGS though. These schools are strong academically and emphasize character building, community projects etc which contribute to an all rounded education. Music, arts, dance annd sports are fully integtared and valued.
Crescent girls is good in its own right and have made progess. But these are clearly two different categories of schools.
You cannot offer through-train(A-level) to students with less than 250 PSLE score simply because they come from affliation school. -
DadOfGirl:
Both SCGS and MGS are offering dual track - meaning they offer both O levels and IP thru train to A levels. Only the top 2-3 classes in each school will be in the IP programme. The remaining students will take O levels. In MGS, the classes offered IP will likely be the Sophia Blackmore classes and in SCGS, the top 2 classes are those whose scores are >250.Raising Cut-off point should continue as these schools are awarded to run IP program. It will have to scrap affliation completely by the time entire Cohort of Sec 1 batch goes directly to A-level.
You cannot offer through-train(A-level) to students with less than 250 PSLE score simply because they come from affliation school. -
Just to add on, SCGS and MGS will never scrap affiliation with their primary schools. They may raise the COPs for affiliated students, as they have already, but completely scrapping will never happen. The alumni and boards will not allow it to happen.
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