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    2011 P1 Registration Exercise for 2012 In-Take

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Primary Schools - Selection & Registration
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    • G Offline
      g2m6
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      i feel that spore does not need 180 different primary schools to begin with. All resources come centrally from MOE and so do the teachers and principals. They all sit for a common PSLE after 6 yrs. With 180 different schools do we really get 180 different systems to begin with? Do we have 180 different kind of teaching methods and syllabus? If we don’t then can the schools be consolidated or rationalised? So long as you have 180 different schools each viewed as a separate entity, MOE can talk until they turn blue but parents will still think that some schools are better than others. With 180 differnt schools, the difference between the top 10 and bottom 10 is going to be perceived to be very wide. So there will be unequal distribution of vacancies amongst the schools. But if there are lesser schools then the perceived difference amongst the schools will not be perceived to be so stark. MOE has been talking until the cows come home that all schools are the same and neighbourhood schools are also comparable to some of the more established and popular schools since all of them come under MOE’s jurisdiction. But parents just aint buying that at all.

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        g2m6
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        markfch:
        g2m6:


        everything been equal, if i or my family are able or willing to pay i will get higher priority? money can help to cut queue?

        Pls elaborate what do you mean by the above statement. Do you mean shifting house or something else?

        i mean if 2 ex alumi but one can pay the 1k alumi fee another cant, the one who can will be in 2A1 while the other will be in 2A2

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          CayennePepper
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          zhuangzi:
          ...it is not fair for parent who are ex-student to qualify under P2A2. For parents like yourself who paid and contribute greatly in terms of time as ex-alumni members, you deserve the preference, not those freeriders!!!

          Hmmm, how is it not fair for ex-students to qualify under 2A2? The 2A2 provision is written very clearly: parents or siblings who have studied in the school of choice. Parents who register in this phase did not take advantage of the system; the rule allows them to qualify! They certainly did not circumvent the requirement somehow and get in via a loophole.

          I can understand the frustration of parents who think the system is flawed, but I think it's not fair to attribute blame to parents who are simply 'following' the rules of the game. If the rule is wrong, perhaps the fault lies with those who write the rules. I do think it's high time the whole P1 registration process gets a review though. Way overdue!

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          • J Offline
            jtoh
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            LOLMum:
            thanks jtoh but mine was over and done with last year. πŸ˜‚

            Haha! I did wonder but thought you had another little one.

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              RRMummy
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              phtthp:
              Yes, clone all primary schools in SG to follow Nanyang high standard.

              all pupils sit for common exam qns, common tests.
              everything all common.

              then there won't be clamoring of anymore hot, popular school.
              all these will become history.
              Food for thought.

              Is every P1-going child ready for Nanyang High Standards?

              Is every parent keen on schools that are of Nanyang High Standards?

              Would concern parents be keen to put their average child in a system which only caters to High Standards?

              It is a fact that
              - some P1s are not even able to read / read well when they enter P1.
              - not all child are able to cope with Nanyang High Standard.
              - not every child has parents who can guide / send them to tuition to cope with Nanyang High Standards.

              So in these cases, what will happen to these group of students? I kinda suspect they are not in the minority..

              Some schools does not produce top students year in year out but did all the students there not have a fulfilling 6 years in Primary school? Are we not giving these teachers the credit they deserve?

              I did not send my gals to Kinderland. I trust that like me many parents have their own reasons for not doing so...

              ooohh..and one more thing.. one common test PSLE and all of us are already dreading, I can't imagine if we are going to have common tests and exams starting from lower Primary that is pegged at Nanyang High Standards.. :faint: :faint: :faint: many times over..

              I did not go to a branded school but it was really a great 6-years of my life..If I had a choice, I'll do it all over again. πŸ˜‰

              I pray that we will continue to have a system which \"Does Not Leave Anybody Behind\". πŸ™

              Disclaimer:
              I have no idea if all children in Nanyang needs to go for tuition and if so is it to keep up or to excel much better.

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                CayennePepper
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                g2m6:
                i mean if 2 ex alumi but one can pay the 1k alumi fee another cant, the one who can will be in 2A1 while the other will be in 2A2.

                It doesn't, as yet, make any difference though, since all Phase 2A registrants are successful.

                Just a thought. If we take away 2A2 and ex-students have to join their alumni associations to qualify for Phase 2A, then those who can't afford e.g. $1K, would not qualify for the phase. Wouldn't it be discriminatory as well? Then the rule would really be saying: if you can pay, you can qualify. Ergo, no $, no priority!

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                  markfch
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                  RRMummy:

                  Food for thought.

                  Is every P1-going child ready for Nanyang High Standards?

                  Is every parent keen on schools that are of Nanyang High Standards?

                  Would concern parents be keen to put their average child in a system which only caters to High Standards?

                  It is a fact that
                  - some P1s are not even able to read / read well when they enter P1.
                  - not all child are able to cope with Nanyang High Standard.
                  - not every child has parents who can guide / send them to tuition to cope with Nanyang High Standards.

                  So in these cases, what will happen to these group of students? I kinda suspect they are not in the minority..

                  Some schools does not produce top students year in year out but did all the students there not have a fulfilling 6 years in Primary school? Are we not giving these teachers the credit they deserve?

                  I did not send my gals to Kinderland. I trust that like me many parents have their own reasons for not doing so...

                  ooohh..and one more thing.. one common test PSLE and all of us are already dreading, I can't imagine if we are going to have common tests and exams starting from lower Primary that is pegged at Nanyang High Standards.. :faint: :faint: :faint: many times over..

                  I did not go to a branded school but it was really a great 6-years of my life..If I had a choice, I'll do it all over again. πŸ˜‰

                  I pray that we will continue to have a system which \"Does Not Leave Anybody Behind\". πŸ™

                  Disclaimer:
                  I have no idea if all children in Nanyang needs to go for tuition and if so is it to keep up or to excel much better.
                  :goodpost:

                  You spoke my mind. One more thing, even within the ACS family, I was told that ACSJ & ACSP do have a noticeable gap in standard. We're only talking about 2 schs, and there is already a gap.

                  Goes to show that you can clone the system (to a certain extent), but you can never clone the people aka teaching staff, students, parents & (tutors)?

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                    g2m6
                    last edited by

                    how to have 1 system cater to all not to mention one of NY’s high standard. we need to have a mixture but 180 different schools is just too many. To cater to different groups how many do we need? 20? 50? 100? i dun know but 180 different schools is causing a lot of unnecessary stress and work for everyone.

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                      smurf
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                      Just one sentence: the system is screwed up.



                      No one would be bothered to do anything, because they are sitting on ivory tower, dunno and dun want to know what is happening. As long as they can sit in ivory tower, they dun care. Why bother to change? Haha.


                      The suggestions that some of you gave are good,but what is the point of giving so many suggestions and they are not listening or even bother to listen at all?

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                        jtoh
                        last edited by

                        RRMummy:
                        phtthp:

                        Yes, clone all primary schools in SG to follow Nanyang high standard.

                        all pupils sit for common exam qns, common tests.
                        everything all common.

                        then there won't be clamoring of anymore hot, popular school.
                        all these will become history.

                        Food for thought.

                        Is every P1-going child ready for Nanyang High Standards?

                        Is every parent keen on schools that are of Nanyang High Standards?

                        Would concern parents be keen to put their average child in a system which only caters to High Standards?

                        It is a fact that
                        - some P1s are not even able to read / read well when they enter P1.
                        - not all child are able to cope with Nanyang High Standard.
                        - not every child has parents who can guide / send them to tuition to cope with Nanyang High Standards.

                        So in these cases, what will happen to these group of students? I kinda suspect they are not in the minority..

                        Some schools does not produce top students year in year out but did all the students there not have a fulfilling 6 years in Primary school? Are we not giving these teachers the credit they deserve?

                        I did not send my gals to Kinderland. I trust that like me many parents have their own reasons for not doing so...

                        ooohh..and one more thing.. one common test PSLE and all of us are already dreading, I can't imagine if we are going to have common tests and exams starting from lower Primary that is pegged at Nanyang High Standards.. :faint: :faint: :faint: many times over..

                        I did not go to a branded school but it was really a great 6-years of my life..If I had a choice, I'll do it all over again. πŸ˜‰

                        I pray that we will continue to have a system which \"Does Not Leave Anybody Behind\". πŸ™

                        Disclaimer:
                        I have no idea if all children in Nanyang needs to go for tuition and if so is it to keep up or to excel much better.

                        Well said! I, for one, will not send my kids to Nanyang. Not every child thrives in a Nanyang environment.

                        I don't understand why there's a need for everything to be absolutely equal, for there to be cookie cutter systems replicated in every school.

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