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    • C Offline
      Chenonceau
      last edited by

      AntiGEP:
      And parents shouldnt involve in their talk (FB)..even their children share their P/W with them...parents can view and check on it and shouldnt get too involve..

      Ummm... I can't quite agree here, you know. It is the parent's responsibility to teach children internet safety, and that includes ways to project a socially responsible presence online. This is important because employers and scholarship boards do trawl the net for information about the people they hire and/or award. Indeed, there are companies that exist for the sole purpose of compiling curriculum vitae from internet trails... an alternative curriculum vitae that companies trust more than that put in by the applicant.

      I don't think this young lady is going to undergo a name change. If that is so, she runs the REAL risk that her online indiscretions bear negatively upon choice opportunities that would come her way in future, because employers will google and find her. Happily, people in this thread (including Sunflowermum) have responsibly NOT mentioned her name here so that this thread will not be found in future google searches. If her name were here, it WILL be found, because this thread has a very high hit rate.

      Looked at another way, Sunflowermum has prevented the young lady from harming herself further in REAL ways. A little bit of anonymous heat on this thread is nothing compared to the pain of losing a desired life opportunity (a scholarship... a job) later. This is something to be thankful for.

      Furthermore, what sunflowermum did was socially responsible in that it has

      (1) communicated to a whole cohort of GEPpers (not just to Miss XXXX) that vulgar behavior is not socially acceptable even if it exists. After all, there are people in this REAL world who bathe in drains, eat leftovers from restaurants, and have sex next to rooftop water tanks... but is that a lifestyle we wish to emulate?

      (2) protected the girl from further damaging her own online presence.

      I too used to check out my kids' facebook account. Once in a while I sound out some warnings to them. For example, remove your tag from the photo that features the risque joke scrawled on the classroom board. Facebook, as a company, is no respecter of personal privacy. I learnt one day that all the photos you upload are Facebook's intellectual property. You really can't tell what Facebook will choose to do with all that they own of you. Why place your reputation and your life in the hands of a company that doesn't care for you in the least? My kids have learnt to be careful with the parts of their life which they put into the public domain... photos, writings... And these days, I no longer bother to check on them because I know that they know how to be safe. It takes time to conduct checks. I do it because I care. I can think of more fun things to do than conduct checks.

      Also, it isn't easy for another parent to reach out and pull another parent's child back from the edge of a precipice, as Sunflowermum did with Miss XXXX here. But if Sunflowermum had kept quiet, the one most hurt will not be Sunflowermum, nor her child... but Miss XXXX herself. Even if a report was made to the school, so what? Would Miss XXXX's school teachers place this as a bad mark on her record? I doubt it. A school, more than any other entity, is aware of their role in counselling and educating and giving 2nd chances. A school knows full well that it is dealing with children, not criminals. Indeed, note that Hwa Chong didn't keep Jonathan Wong's foray into the female toilet on record. It is likely that the school would counsel and guide, and clean her record. However, what Miss XXXX has herself placed on the internet will stay there forever. Account deactivation is not account deletion. Facebook deletes nothing. If Sunflowermum had not intervened, then Miss XXXX would continue to dig her own grave on the internet by posting more and more vulgarities.

      It seems that Miss XXXX's parents have not quite succeeded in providing their child the necessary guidance in internet safety so a report made to the school would allow teaching and counselling professionals to help this child. Else, we should thank Sunflowermum for already providing this guidance.

      Note also that Sunflowermum could have revealed Miss XXXX's name on this thread... and that would have pushed poor little Miss XXXX over the edge of the precipice in her experimentation with vulgarity (because what goes online, stays in cyberspace and could come back to haunt her in 15 years time, when she would probably have become an upstanding citizen and seeking to fill a well paying job vacancy in a prestigious organisation that values propriety and high morals). Instead, Sunflowermum was unsure what to do and she asked for advice from parents here (and she was careful to leave Miss XXXX's name out of her postings)... That kids have joined in the discussion is beside the point. This thread is where parents seek advice from each other, and the way I see it, I don't view Sunflowermum's posts as harassment nor flaming but a genuine request for advice from other people... chiefly because she refused to divulge Miss XXXX's real name.

      In conclusion, it is a parent's responsibility to check their kids' Facebook accounts and gently guide their charges towards internet safety. This is what Sunflowermum has done. I see nothing wrong with it.

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        Rosie
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        Chenonceau,

        Thank you for such a :goodpost:. Will definitely show what you have written to my child.

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          comfy
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          Chenonceau,

          I wouldn't agree more with you. What you have said about Sunflowermum is very supportive and encouraging. What you have mentioned is what I would like to say but just didn't know how to put it nicely. Thks for saying it so well. :hi5:

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            comfy
            last edited by

            ngbrdad:
            Did the GE branch revise the SS syllabus ?

            DS2 is doing twinning at NHPS so he is doing the same SS syllabus with the GE kids.
            Just saw the assignment for his second P4 SS portfolio and I was shocked.
            So much more complicated compared to DS1's assignment 2 years ago.

            I am thankful that for a twinning student his SS is not going to be graded.
            May I know what portfolio you are referring to?

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              MummyThreeStreams
              last edited by

              Chenonceau,

              You did it again!
              :goodpost:

              I totally agree with you!

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                Edureach
                last edited by

                Chenonceau


                Can’t help feeling that if there’s such position as Deputy director of schools(counselling), MOE, you can fill in this shoe. This proposed position reports directly to Director of Education.

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                  sunflowermom
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                  Chenonceau,


                  You know exactly where I am coming from. :thankyou:

                  I would also like to say a big :thankyou: to those parents who have sent me encouragement private messages.

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                    cylg
                    last edited by

                    Chenonceau,


                    Yet another brilliant post! :udawoman:

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                      Chenonceau
                      last edited by

                      Hey... wow... gee thanks Moms and Dads... :oops: Thanks for your warm comments. It's nice to be appreciated.


                      And to our precious little ones (GEPpers and non-GEPpers) reading this... know that

                      (1) parents on this thread do mean you well even though it may not have seemed so at first blush

                      (2) you can sometimes be your own worst enemy at adolescence and early adulthood

                      So, instead of going up in flames and putting exclamation marks all over the text at the slightest provocation, perhaps one could calm down and try to think things through from a few different perspectives.

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                        Unsatisfied-Mum
                        last edited by

                        Chenonceau, amazing post! Can you give my children CME lessons? 😉

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