Presidential Election 2011

[verykiasu2010]

don’t think the EP has any influence on how the GE is run, nor any powder to influence the electoral boundary


electoral boundary has always been the prerogative of the gov’t of the day

one day if / when the oppo is the ruling gov’t, they will get the chance to tinker with the electoral boundary as well

such is politics …

[limlim]

verykiasu2010:

at this moment the political system of singapore is such that \"check and balances\" is done via the parliament; the elected president is ceremonial plus custodial


if TJS wishes to be the \"check & balance\" he should seek to enter parliament which will gives him more legitimacy

as it is now, TJS flip-flopped between the May 2011 GE seeking to enter parliament and then abruptly resigned from the party to contest the EP to talk about \"check & balance\".......

Playing a custodial role is a form of checks and balances too.. it prevents the mis-use of reserves.

EP and MP provide different form of checks and balances. And I don't feel that there is any contradiction between running for EP and MP with regards to serving the interests of the pple.

[verykiasu2010]

limlim:

verykiasu2010:

at this moment the political system of singapore is such that \"check and balances\" is done via the parliament; the elected president is ceremonial plus custodial


if TJS wishes to be the \"check & balance\" he should seek to enter parliament which will gives him more legitimacy

as it is now, TJS flip-flopped between the May 2011 GE seeking to enter parliament and then abruptly resigned from the party to contest the EP to talk about \"check & balance\".......

Playing a custodial role is a form of checks and balances too.. it prevents the mis-use of reserves.

EP and MP provide different form of checks and balances. And I don't feel that there is any contradiction between running for EP and MP with regards to serving the interests of the pple.

being an MP, it is an active role; being the EP, it is a passive check / balance at best

the gov't of the day can run a deficit without tapping into the reserve .... nothing the EP could no

[Chenonceau]

limlim:

verykiasu2010:

at this moment the political system of singapore is such that \"check and balances\" is done via the parliament; the elected president is ceremonial plus custodial


if TJS wishes to be the \"check & balance\" he should seek to enter parliament which will gives him more legitimacy

as it is now, TJS flip-flopped between the May 2011 GE seeking to enter parliament and then abruptly resigned from the party to contest the EP to talk about \"check & balance\".......

Playing a custodial role is a form of checks and balances too.. it prevents the mis-use of reserves.

EP and MP provide different form of checks and balances. And I don't feel that there is any contradiction between running for EP and MP with regards to serving the interests of the pple.

This is not logical. They are very different roles. Requirements are different.

[limlim]

verykiasu2010:

being an MP, it is an active role; being the EP, it is a passive check / balance at best

the gov't of the day can run a deficit without tapping into the reserve .... nothing the EP could no

At least, bringing the matter to light (like what OTC did) is better than keeping quiet.. like.. whoever..

of coz, if, there's an effective Opp in parliament, then, we don't really need to stress over who should we choose to be the EP already.. almost anyone will do just fine.. probably.. However, now there is less than 30% Opp MP in parliament.. having an \"effective\" EP is better than nothing.. JMHO..

And since the EP is not playing active role..

Why worry about him engaging the ruling party now and then? He's not going to hinder them by blocking their motion whatever right.. SG will still move forward..

At most, he just voice out and make public what he feel the public needs to know. There is no harm even IF he is confrontation, which he may not be.. Having him engaging the ruling party does more good than harm.. I feel..

[concern2]

limlim:

... I don't feel that there is any contradiction between running for EP and MP with regards to serving the interests of the pple.

This I agree.

[limlim]

Chenonceau:

This is not logical. They are very different roles. Requirements are different.

Why would the switching of the role put a discount on the desire to serve the interests of the pple? That is my question..

If you want to donate blood but you're rejected due to watever reason.. the next best thing is to go and be a volunteer.. isn't it?

or you just try and try for the next chance to donate blood and refuse to be a volunteer even thou the opportunity knocks now?

Is it so difficult to just want to serve? Why must pple view the desire to serve with much skepticism ?

[Busymom]

limlim:

Chenonceau:

This is not logical. They are very different roles. Requirements are different.

Why would the switching of the role put a discount on the desire to serve the interests of the pple? That is my question..

If you want to donate blood but you're rejected due to watever reason.. the next best thing is to go and be a volunteer.. isn't it?

or you just try and try for the next chance to donate blood and refuse to be a volunteer even thou the opportunity knocks now?

Is it so difficult to just want to serve? Why must pple view the desire to serve with much skepticism ?

Because the EP is a non-executive role, not to be confused with what the opp parties can do in parliament.

The things that TSY says he wants to push as a EP is not within the current power of an EP.

That is the contradiction.

BTW, how is he going to push for his economic policy as a EP? Can someone enlighten me?

[Sun_2010]

Busymom:

limlim:

[quote=\"Chenonceau\"]
This is not logical. They are very different roles. Requirements are different.

Why would the switching of the role put a discount on the desire to serve the interests of the pple? That is my question..

If you want to donate blood but you're rejected due to watever reason.. the next best thing is to go and be a volunteer.. isn't it?

or you just try and try for the next chance to donate blood and refuse to be a volunteer even thou the opportunity knocks now?

Is it so difficult to just want to serve? Why must pple view the desire to serve with much skepticism ?

Because the EP is a non-executive role, not to be confused with what the opp parties can do in parliament.

The things that TSY says he wants to push as a EP is not within the current power of an EP.

That is the contradiction.

BTW, how is he going to push for his economic policy as a EP? Can someone enlighten me? [/quote]me too :?

[Chenonceau]

limlim:

Chenonceau:

This is not logical. They are very different roles. Requirements are different.

Why would the switching of the role put a discount on the desire to serve the interests of the pple? That is my question..

Did I discount his desire to serve the people? :?

Many people desire to work. Yet, sales jobs require different skills sets and profiles from welding. You can't go into a welding job thinking like a sales man. TJS seems to approach the EP role as an MP. I make no comment on his desire to serve, however.