How do you maintain your relationship with your spouse?
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ksme:
:goodpost: :love: :love:Received the following from friend recently. Very thought provoking.
現在,我也知道父母親的婚姻為何無法幸福,他們都太執著用「自己」的方法愛對方,而不是用「對方」的方式愛另一半。自己累得半死,對方還感受不到,最後面對婚姻的期待,也就灰心而死了。 -
jesschan:
[quote]Yeah! i think tat s the why to refresh n maintain the relationship! U r soooooo lucky!I think it is important to create couple time with your spouse and sometimes one party needs to make some sacrifices. For me, I quit my job in order to look after the kids and have a more flexible time. At that time, my career was going uphill but I was feeling exhausted all the time and it became very challenging to spend quality time with my family.
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Maintaining a good relationship needs consistent effort. My husband is seldom home for dinner as he often works late but we have breakfast together everyday after the kids go to school and I will leave some simple home cooked food or soup at night if I do cook. On Saturdays, we will deposit the kids with my mum for a few hours and we practice golf at the driving range, go shopping, take a dip at the swimming pool or simply laze at home. Once in two months, we will dress up and also go for a nice dinner and have drinks while the children are left with his mum. Occasionally, he will also take half or one day leave and we go for walks or played golf while the kids are in school. Sometimes, we also watched a midnight movie at the nearby cinema while the kids are sleeping. On top of that, we go for a short overseas trip without the kids at least once a year. We are very lucky to have very supportive parents who can help to look after our kids when needed.
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ksme:
[quote] (有点长,哈哈哈感觉来了很难停笔)你这篇文章让我想起我的爸妈还有我的前男友。从小我以为我的爸妈很恩爱,从外人的眼光看来的确应该是很恩爱的,可是长大了渐渐才知道他们其实并不是我们想象得那么恩爱,其实有很多争吵很多不合,我妈妈还得过忧郁症,我是长女我竟然也不知道这件事,我很心痛,真的很心痛,从小一位很恩爱的爸妈原来真相不是那样,他们都是一直在为钱的事情争吵,在我眼里看起来很合理的东西在妈妈的眼里未必是合理,爸爸是一个很负责任的男人,妈妈也不错(脾气暴躁了点)。Received the following from friend recently. Very thought provoking.
我的母親是個非常好的人,自小,我就看到她努力地維持一個家。她總是在清晨五時起床,煮一鍋熱騰騰的稀飯給父親吃,因為父親胃不好,早餐只能吃稀飯。然後,還要煮一鍋乾飯給孩子吃,因為孩子正在發育,需要吃乾飯,上學一天才不會餓。
每個星期,母親會把榻榻米搬出去曬,曬出暖暖的太陽香。每天下午,母親總是彎著腰,刷著鍋子,我們家的鍋子每一個都可以當鏡子用,完全沒有一點污垢。
晚上,她努力蹲在地上擦地板,一寸一寸仔細地擦拭,家裡的地板比別人家的床頭還乾淨,打著赤腳也找不到一絲灰塵。
我母親是個認真辛勞的好女人。然而,在我父親的眼中,她卻不是一個好伴侶。
我成長過程中,父親不只一次地表示他在婚姻中的孤單,不被瞭解。
我的父親是個負責的男人。他不抽煙、不喝酒,工作認真,每天準時上下班,暑假還安排功課表,安排孩子們的作息,他是個盡責的父親,督促孩子在功課上有所成就。他喜歡下棋、寫書法,沉浸在古書的世界。我的父親是個好男人,在孩子們眼中,他就像天一樣大,保護我們、教育我們。
只是,在我母親的眼中,他也不是一個好伴侶,我成長的過程中,我經常看到母親在院子的角落中,暗暗無聲地掉淚。
父親用語言,母親用行動,表達了他們在婚姻中所面對的痛苦。
成長的過程中,我看到、也聽到父親與母親在婚姻中的無奈,也看到、感受到他們是如此好的男人與女人,他們值得一椿好婚姻。可惜的是,父親在世的歲月中,他們彼此的婚姻生活都在挫折中度過,而我,也一直在困惑中成長,我問自己:「兩個好人為什麼沒有好的婚姻﹖」
自以為是的付出
我長大後,進入婚姻,漸漸了解這個問題的答案。
在婚姻的初期,我就像母親一樣,努力持家,努力地刷鍋子、擦地板,認真地為自己的婚姻而努力。奇怪的是,我不快樂;看看我的先生,似乎他也不快樂。
我心中想,大概是地板不夠乾淨,飯菜燒得不夠好,於是,我更努力擦地板,用心做飯。似乎,我們兩個人還是不快樂。
直到有一天,我正忙著擦地板時,先生說﹕「老婆,來陪我聽一下音樂﹗」我不悅地說﹕「沒看到還有一大半的地方沒有擦﹗」這句話一說出口,我呆住了,好熟悉的一句話,在我父親母親的婚姻中,母親也經常這樣對父親說。
我正在重演父母親的婚姻,也重複他們在婚姻中的不快樂。
有一些領悟出現在我的心中。
「你要的是﹖」我停下手邊的工作,看著先生,想到我父親.....
他一直在婚姻中得不到他要的陪伴,母親刷鍋子的時間都比陪他的時間長。
不斷地做家事,是母親維持婚姻的方法,她給父親一個乾淨的家,卻從未陪伴他,她忙著做家事,她用她的方法在愛父親,這個方法是「做家事」。
而我,我也用我的方法在愛著我的先生。
我的方法也是母親的方法,我的婚姻好像也在走向同一個故事「兩個好人卻沒有好婚姻。」
我的領悟使我做了不一樣的選擇。
停下手邊的工作,坐到先生的身邊,陪他聽音樂,遠遠地看著地上擦地板的抹布,像是看著母親的命運。我問先生﹕「你需要什麼﹖」「我需要妳陪我聽聽音樂,家裡髒一點沒關係呀,以後幫妳請個傭人,妳就可以陪我了﹗」先生說。
「我以為你需要家裡乾淨,有人煮飯給你吃,有人為你洗衣服.....」
我一口氣說了一串應該是他需要的事。
「那些都是次要的呀﹗」先生說。「我最希望妳陪陪我。」
原來我作了許多白工,這個結果實在令我大吃一驚。
我們繼續分享彼此的需要,才發現他也做了不少白工,我們都用自己的方式在愛對方,而不是對方的方式。
幸福的路徑
自此以後,我列了一張先生的需要表,把它放在書桌前,他也列了一張我的需求表,放在他的書桌前。洋洋灑灑十幾項的需求,像是有空陪對方聽音樂、有機會抱抱對方、每天早上kiss拜拜。有些項目比較容易做到,有些項目比較難,像是「聽我說話,不要給建議。」
這是先生的需要。如果我給他建議,他說他會覺得自己像笨蛋。我想,這真是男人的面子問題。我也學著不給建議,除非他問我,否則我就只是傾聽,順服到底,連走錯路時也一樣。
這對我實在是一條不容易學習的路,不過,比擦地板要輕鬆多了,而我們在需求的滿足中,婚姻也愈來愈有活力。
在我累的時候,我就選擇一些容易的項目做,像是「放一首放鬆音樂」,自己有力氣的時候就規劃「一次外地旅遊」這樣的事情。
有趣的是,「到植物園散步」是我們的共同項目、共同需求,每次婚姻有爭吵,去到植物園,總能安慰彼此的心靈。其實,這也可想而知,原本我們就是因為對植物園的喜愛而相知相惜,一起走入婚姻,回到園子就會回到多年前彼此相愛的心情。問對方:「你要什麼?」這句話開啟了婚姻另一個幸福之路。兩個好人終於走上幸福之路。
現在,我也知道父母親的婚姻為何無法幸福,他們都太執著用「自己」的方法愛對方,而不是用「對方」的方式愛另一半。自己累得半死,對方還感受不到,最後面對婚姻的期待,也就灰心而死了。
既然上帝創造婚姻,我想,每個人都值得擁有一個好婚姻,只要方法用對,作「對方要的﹗」而非自己「想給的﹗」
好婚姻,絕對是可預期的。
记得妈妈曾经说过一句话:你爸爸什么都好就是不会搞浪漫。当然,浪漫不能当饭吃,可是我觉得浪漫不一定要花大钱,送一大束玫瑰,上高级的餐厅吃饭,我觉得浪漫也可以是很温馨的,像是小小的拥抱,牵手,一起看夕阳之类的,这些浪漫我觉得是婚姻经营能够做到的很小很小的要求。我妈妈就是要这些,可是我爸爸连我妈妈在夜里哭泣几年了都不知道后来搞到忧郁症了才知道。爸爸固然有错,可是妈妈也是有责任。
这又让我想起我的前男友,这种情况有点跟我跟我前男友的情况有点相似。我也总是为了他哭,可是他却好像没有心疼过我(是我的感觉可他否认),我们在一起两年半的时间,我们总是吵架总是冷战,我不明白他为什么那么小的要求不能做到他不明白他为什么非得要那样做不可,简单来说就是我的要求他做不到,他要的我做不到。所以我们结束了。
我觉得在一段感情里面只要双方的爱不平等,不被尊重,很难再继续下去。在外人的眼里,我们是很恩爱的一对,可是在我们之间我们才知道问题。我曾多次地说我们并不适合,可是他却说天底下没有适合的伴侣的,都是时间磨练出来适合的。因为大家都是来自不同家庭背景有不一样的性格。我不否认他的话可是我不知道怎么解释我们之间的问题。到现在我还是不明白我们到底是什么问题。我想,应该就是 “作「對方要的﹗」而非自己「想給的﹗」”吧。 [/quote] -
i thk we are all so all-rounded…k… now im coming to this part… always the last after the kids…following this thread
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I have read somewhere that "to treat the spouse at slighter higher priority than the kids". Once you can achieve it, the marriage will be intact and kids will have a happy family naturally. By loving my kids, I should love my husband a bit more so that my kids will have a stronger family. Loving husband is a work-in-progress and we should treat it an "empty box" situation whereby we always have to put things in before taking things out.
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Pooh Bear:
I have read somewhere that \"to treat the spouse at slighter higher priority than the kids\". Once you can achieve it, the marriage will be intact and kids will have a happy family naturally. By loving my kids, I should love my husband a bit more so that my kids will have a stronger family. Loving husband is a work-in-progress and we should treat it an \"empty box\" situation whereby we always have to put things in before taking things out.
Then should just not have kids. That'd be the best. Or else so stressful to keep trying to be one-up, right? From scenario above, it does seem that husband is worse than a kid, and that kids are not good for the family! -
phankao:
For mummies like us who are very concern of our children education, no choice got to neglect a bit of our dh especially when near to children exams. It would be best if we can get our dh involve in coaching our children too, so he would be in the 'same boat'... And understand our 苦恼,... Else apart from planning revision time with kids we also got tp spare a liitle time for our 'neglected' dh
Then should just not have kids. That'd be the best. Or else so stressful to keep trying to be one-up, right? From scenario above, it does seem that husband is worse than a kid, and that kids are not good for the family! -
if one does not put in effort to maintain relationship, then it is better not be married or worst, have kids. Work-in-progress always… however, marriage and motherhood do have their rewards…after you put in effort first lah…
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in Family with kids -Mommy became a very important person to keep the
family together because of our maternal instinct esp when the child is very young ....as the child grow older , then Dad take over and get more involved . Dad is seen as the strategist and Mum the tradesman because Mum is good at multi-tasking and dealing with details...
Spouses - if we can complement the long and short of each other
the child will flourish
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It hard to juggle between kids + dh + a full time job + managing household (even with maid, maid usually not on "AUTO" mode one!)
For myself, I have young children and I work full time.
Sex - Hiaz… I think we have reached an age where its not longer spontaneous so DH and I would try to make it every say Wednesday nite … LOL… Most of the time we skip cos too tired but at least one or twice sucessful (must get all kids in bed first! stress!)
We also try to take half days off work to go spa or just go and have lunch…
Its important not to neglect our DH as well.
And more important must take cate of ourselves.
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