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    Looking for better 2nd & 3rd tier Secondary Schools

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      ppnqq
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      Edureach:
      phankao


      Xinmin, yes but not Yishun Town which is probably tier 3 at best.
      But I thought YTSS's COP was 235 and it's an Autonomous school? Also understood the culture, teachers and curriculum very good. May be you have mistaken Yishun Sec for Yishun Town.

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        ppnqq
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        phankao:
        Edureach:

        phankao


        Xinmin, yes but not Yishun Town which is probably tier 3 at best.

        What do you classify as 2nd Tier & 3rd Tier then?

        eg.
        2nd Tier: 230-250
        3rd Tier: 200-229 ???

        If that's the case, then both Xinmin (around 235-240 COP for last few years) and Yishun Town (around 233-238 COP for last few years) should be around there, difference by a few marks only. I think most would look at location if they are considering schools around those scores.

        and then if looking at location of Yishun, probably Chung Cheng would have a greater draw with it's COP averaging around 230-231 bc there's affiliation to Nanyang JC as well?

        Chung Cheng's COP is lower than YTSS.

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          Mamo
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          Though Chung Cheng Yishun COP is lower than YTSS, it is band 3 whereas YTSS is band 5. Both are in the range of 230 to 240. In this instance, as some parents have suggested in the earlier and other threads, we should choose the sch with a better band grade.

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            Son is currently studying in ACS primary and he’s just an average student. Because of the strong sense of loyalty, students have been encouraged to choose back ACS Barker or ACS Independent. After reading all the discussions and the statistics (band 8), not very willing to put son in ACS Barker.


            Would anyone who has sons studying in ACS Barker share their experience or comments on the school.

            Thank you very much.

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              ScaredyMum
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              Hi,


              Anyone with kids in CHS? I have a question on DSA but when I read through the DSA thread, its all on the Raffles family, NYGH, HCI etc. I wanted to know more about CHS instead.

              Is it very difficult to get DSA to CHS via music (not chinese orchestra) but piano or concert band? Read someone mentioned that at most they only offer 30 places via DSA and mostly for sports? If have DSA then what is the minimum score for PSLE?

              I know some of these so-call 2nd & 3rd tier schools also offer DSA, so parents should not think that DSA is only for the TOP schools. If your kids can DSA into these schools, its also good.

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                Pen88n
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                ScaredyMum:
                Hi,


                Anyone with kids in CHS? I have a question on DSA but when I read through the DSA thread, its all on the Raffles family, NYGH, HCI etc. I wanted to know more about CHS instead.

                Is it very difficult to get DSA to CHS via music (not chinese orchestra) but piano or concert band? Read someone mentioned that at most they only offer 30 places via DSA and mostly for sports? If have DSA then what is the minimum score for PSLE?

                I know some of these so-call 2nd & 3rd tier schools also offer DSA, so parents should not think that DSA is only for the TOP schools. If your kids can DSA into these schools, its also good.
                Currently, CHS is under the normal sec sch and can only accept up to 10% by DSA. In addition, they have affiliation that they need to cater for. Come next year, CHS is offering IP and their IP arm may be a different acceptance criteria. Wait to be seen.

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                  Pen88n
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                  Mamo:
                  Though Chung Cheng Yishun COP is lower than YTSS, it is band 3 whereas YTSS is band 5. Both are in the range of 230 to 240. In this instance, as some parents have suggested in the earlier and other threads, we should choose the sch with a better band grade.



                  Mamo, fyi, Chung Cheng Yishun is listed as a band 3 school in the 2012 S1 posting booklet. If you have the 2011 S1 posting booklet, it is listed as band 6 in there.

                  It can be something they are doing right that results in such a big improvement jump, or it can also be just pure lucky like spotting the right topic / questions (not trying to be skeptical but it is anyone's guess!).

                  Just want to highlight this fact as most parents may not have the 2011 S1 posting booklet and may not be aware of this \"big discrepancy\" - usually most school is within 1 band difference only. Thought it is something worth noting for those interested in the school.

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                    pixiedust
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                    Am I right that Secondary school - whether band 1,2,3... - this information can only be found in S1 posting booklet ?


                    I've checked MOE school info system, no information of bands.

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                      Mamo
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                      Pen88n:
                      Mamo:

                      Though Chung Cheng Yishun COP is lower than YTSS, it is band 3 whereas YTSS is band 5. Both are in the range of 230 to 240. In this instance, as some parents have suggested in the earlier and other threads, we should choose the sch with a better band grade.




                      Mamo, fyi, Chung Cheng Yishun is listed as a band 3 school in the 2012 S1 posting booklet. If you have the 2011 S1 posting booklet, it is listed as band 6 in there.

                      It can be something they are doing right that results in such a big improvement jump, or it can also be just pure lucky like spotting the right topic / questions (not trying to be skeptical but it is anyone's guess!).

                      Just want to highlight this fact as most parents may not have the 2011 S1 posting booklet and may not be aware of this \"big discrepancy\" - usually most school is within 1 band difference only. Thought it is something worth noting for those interested in the school.


                      Thanks for your info. Didn't know abt it. However, I don't think that they high jump from Band 6 to 3 is due to luck cos that's as good as striking toto.

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                        Vanilla Cake
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                        Pen88n:
                        Mamo, fyi, Chung Cheng Yishun is listed as a band 3 school in the 2012 S1 posting booklet. If you have the 2011 S1 posting booklet, it is listed as band 6 in there.


                        It can be something they are doing right that results in such a big improvement jump, or it can also be just pure lucky like spotting the right topic / questions (not trying to be skeptical but it is anyone's guess!).

                        Just want to highlight this fact as most parents may not have the 2011 S1 posting booklet and may not be aware of this \"big discrepancy\" - usually most school is within 1 band difference only. Thought it is something worth noting for those interested in the school.
                        Chung Cheng High School (Yishun)
                        Year 2011: Band 3 based on 2010 'O' level results (2012 S1 posting booklet)
                        Year 2010: Band 6 based on 2009 'O' level results (2011 S1 posting booklet)
                        Year 2009: Band 7 based on 2008 'O' level results
                        Year 2008: Band 9 based on 2007 'O' level results

                        Banding information
                        Band 1: Average L1B5 < 11;
                        Band 2: Average L1B5 =11;
                        Band 3: Average L1B5 =12;
                        Band 4: Average L1B5 =13;
                        Band 5: Average L1B5 =14;
                        Band 6: Average L1B5 =15;
                        Band 7: Average L1B5 =16;
                        Band 8: Average L1B5 =17;
                        Band 9: Average L1B5 =18.

                        For the Express course, the ‘O’ Level bands are based on the average L1B5 rounded down to the nearest integer.

                        VC's mum

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