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    IP failures...has MOE been transparent?

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    • phtthpP Offline
      phtthp
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      does HCI offer O level track, besides IP ?

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        verykiasu2010
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        FanFanX:
        Hi,


        After reading today's Straits Times article, \"Tuition boom as kids prep for Integrated Programme\", I feel that the Ministry of Education (MOE) has not been transparent in certain aspects.

        Another area that I feel MOE has not been transparent is the number of IP failures. I don't think there is any figure given by MOE on the number who have entered IP at Sec 1 and dropped out along the way or who have not done well at A levels (not done well = not accepted by the local universities).
        look, how many JC are there in Singapore today ?

        what is the JC + IP cohort size ?

        what is the number that can get into local uni ?

        clearly the number of local uni places each year do not equal to the number of output from JC/IP. So if IP student cannot get into local uni = failure of IP system, then student from JC cannot get into local uni = failure of JC system ?

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          verykiasu2010
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          phtthp:
          i din realize RI also offer O level, thought only IP track. or did i interpret wrongly ?

          how about HCI - also has O level track, besides IP ?
          RI does not offer O Level

          HCI has no O level track.

          the number of students doing O level at HCI is just a handful sometime due to family reason whatever and the school let them do O level and if good enough, switch back to IP with the rest

          I was told by the principal there is no \"guarantee\" every year there will be students doing O level

          to say that HCI has O level track is incorrect. It is not the same as ACSI

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            verykiasu2010
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            Nebbermind:
            MummyThreeStreams:

            I'm not that familiar with the issues, but is the figure that critical? Coz I think a good number of the IP students who get a place in the JC by virtue of the IP track would've made it into those JCs anyway right? So the actual number of places now available for O level students is not really relevant. What is really of interest is the number places going to those who might not have made it to the JCs without the IP. But these figures will be speculative.


            Think alot of S'poreans r just obsessed with numbers! 😉

            obsessed with speculating numbers :evil: :evil:

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            • phtthpP Offline
              phtthp
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              whether enter uni via JC ‘A’ level or via poly - both routes are tough, due to intense competition everywhere.

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                alng
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                There are not many students from top JCs in the local uni, maybe other than medicine, dentistry and Law. Many should be having scholarships in overseas uni. Many students in the uni are from TJ, VJ, AJ, ACJC, etc.

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                  Edureach
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                  alng:
                  There are not many students from top JCs in the local uni, maybe other than medicine, dentistry and Law. Many should be having scholarships in overseas uni. Many students in the uni are from TJ, VJ, AJ, ACJC, etc.


                  Don't merely guess. Most RI/HCI students do head for local unis. Some simply are not keen to sign bond.

                  Other than the most popular courses, other competitive courses include: ddps, aerospace, chemical, renassance engineering, n pharmacy.

                  However, u are obsolutely correct that those jcs u mentioned hve high proportion of students studying in the local unis.

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                    verykiasu2010
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                    Edureach:
                    alng:

                    There are not many students from top JCs in the local uni, maybe other than medicine, dentistry and Law. Many should be having scholarships in overseas uni. Many students in the uni are from TJ, VJ, AJ, ACJC, etc.



                    Don't merely guess. Most RI/HCI students do head for local unis. Some simply are not keen to sign bond.

                    Other than the most popular courses, other competitive courses include: ddps, aerospace, chemical, renassance engineering, n pharmacy.

                    However, u are obsolutely correct that those jcs u mentioned hve high proportion of students studying in the local unis.

                    why do most of the government scholars head for overseas unis and not local u?

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                      alng
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                      Edureach:
                      alng:

                      There are not many students from top JCs in the local uni, maybe other than medicine, dentistry and Law. Many should be having scholarships in overseas uni. Many students in the uni are from TJ, VJ, AJ, ACJC, etc.



                      Don't merely guess. Most RI/HCI students do head for local unis. Some simply are not keen to sign bond.

                      Other than the most popular courses, other competitive courses include: ddps, aerospace, chemical, renassance engineering, n pharmacy.

                      However, u are obsolutely correct that those jcs u mentioned hve high proportion of students studying in the local unis.

                      This is not mere guessing but a personal observation in one of the schools in a local uni. That school attracts top students and has cut off of AAA at 90th percentile. But i am sorry that I have no stats to cite. Hope the uni or MOE can release more stats.

                      I heard that many students in the NUS Law school are from RI such that there are two groups of students there - the Rafflesians and non-Rafflesians.

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                        Chenonceau
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                        verykiasu2010:
                        Edureach:

                        [quote=\"alng\"]There are not many students from top JCs in the local uni, maybe other than medicine, dentistry and Law. Many should be having scholarships in overseas uni. Many students in the uni are from TJ, VJ, AJ, ACJC, etc.



                        Don't merely guess. Most RI/HCI students do head for local unis. Some simply are not keen to sign bond.

                        Other than the most popular courses, other competitive courses include: ddps, aerospace, chemical, renassance engineering, n pharmacy.

                        However, u are obsolutely correct that those jcs u mentioned hve high proportion of students studying in the local unis.

                        why do most of the government scholars head for overseas unis and not local u?[/quote]So that they can learn wisdom from elsewhere and come back to apply blindly to Singapore, never mind if it doesn't suit our specific situations?

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