Parents, not enrichment centres, are key to result
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tutormum:
using fingers for 9 timetable. :imcool:
Heh! I also used that to teach my boy too.
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Chenonceau
Your case is similar to a famous Qing’s emperor Kangxi, who was reputed to be highly knowlegable.
According to historical records, he once asked his personal tutor who was famed to hve given rather frank remarks without consideration to his life. "We are of the same standard" replied the tutor. Rather keen to find out his standing vs-a vs the top scholars that sat for the imperial exam, he submitted his essay in another name. None of his senior ministers knew about it. Eventually, he came in second.
He was an intellect and a politically acute king! -
Edureach:
Aaaaaaaaah... but you dunno what mark I got... and I am too embarrassed to tell you... :oops: :oops: :oops: I WISH I could have been some emperor because then maybe I would have scored better.Chenonceau
Your case is similar to a famous Qing's emperor Kangxi, who was reputed to be highly knowlegable.
According to historical records, he once asked his personal tutor who was famed to hve given rather frank remarks without consideration to his life. \"We are of the same standard\" replied the tutor. Rather keen to find out his standing vs-a vs the top scholars that sat for the imperial exam, he submitted his essay in another name. None of his senior ministers knew about it. Eventually, he came in second.
He was an intellect and a politically acute king!
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Chenonceau:
Tell you secret... I also did 1 compo and time myself... and pass up to Teacher! I needed to know what exactly the criteria for good writing were because it was such a mystery. :lightrod: It's not just Math... every subject also :siao: .[/quote]haha Chenon...actually language is more mysterious marking(sometimes I wonder if it depends on teachers mood swings)....compo and compre marking...same for science. So the best one we can expect least ambiguity is Math, but sometimes it still happens.laughingcat:
[quote=\"Chenonceau\"]laughingcat, your sharing is something of an eye opener for me.
No problem at all. It's time for me to share that too. I actually laughed at myself for being a P5 again last year. Did all the past year papers and also time myself. This year I am P6 again.
IMO, it is really ridiculous on how today's maths has evolved in today's generation. I really wonder are we all killing the joy of doing maths and education. Is it really necessary?
laughingcat, I question the same thing sometimes especially when the setters start making strange mistakes in setting the questions, it makes me wonder why are they doing things that they find it tough themselves and trip the kids? Sometimes it's the language, sometimes it is just so ambiguous. I agree to being progressive but with good standards.
Having said this, I must qualify these questions are those set at school levels. -
Hi parents, I like to get some views on Chinese (not Maths!)
I find that the Chinese stuff covered in textbooks (even including those sections for HCL kids) are rather limited and yet the school probably expects proficiency in the language at a much higher standard.
For eg looking at 好朋友 which my kid brought back - a chinese mag which I believe most schools get the kids to subscribe. In order to read and comprehend the stories and do worksheets, you will need to know much more Chinese characters than what is covered in textbooks. Worse, Chinese is a language where you need to learn and internalise each character, one by one - no real shortcut unlike English which you can learn to decode unfamiliar words after a while.
I dont know what standard the school will test at - but I would imagine knowing the stuff in textbooks wont be sufficient. If not for much time spent on learning Chinese through enrichment, I doubt my kid could cope with what is expected even at P1 level. -
Musing, i totally have no regards to chinese syllabus. I can’t help my niece on her chinese…it is already too late for that. I just told her to score as best as possible in compre and compo as they carry the most marks.
As for my DSes since they are young, we just read alot of books to build up the vocab. I just make sure they know the minimum vocab as recommended by the MOE syllabus.
Language is very subjective. You just make sure you build up the vocabs. But for writings, be it english and chinese, i am really lost as well. -
laughingcat:
Actually I am surprised myself too...I thought with progression, teachers should be more open to ideas from children.... Being authoritative is fine but rigid is not.Hi Ksi,
paisei lah....i still need to learn from you mummies out there. Do you know it is a wake-up call for me when i approach the maths teacher. I didn't realize that the mentality of the teacher that i spoke to is so different from my old school days. I would used the word to describe her teaching style \"rigid\" and \"authoritative\". -
Musings... I dunno what is in Chinese syllabus because I can't read Chinese. I do know however that Grandma spent P1 to P4 ensuring my son mastered everything in textbook and his grades just went down... down... down.
In P4, I took over. We didn't flip textbooks for a good 6 to 7 months. I exposed him to a high volume of new Chinese words. He did badly in all the ting xie (because no time to study textbook)... but his grades went up... up... up because compo went up, oral went up, compre went up. MCQ went down because that is the only section where syllabus circumscribed words are consistently tested.
I managed to get model compos from a neighbourhood school in Woodlands and showed to Grandma, whose eyeballs popped out and she said that the compos were more difficult than the textbook passages. So now, Grandma believes me when I tell her that you can't just rely on textbook.
But then... there are people who think that PSLE Chinese paper is much easier than the other papers and therefore Chinese standard is low. Also very mysterious. :? -
Musings:
Learning a language competently to me begins from young with alot of speech and reading. The exam will test the 词语 that is covered in the syllabus for filling in the blanks or sentences constructed but when it comes to compre, there can be 词语 not taught but the individual characters are taught or sometimes not but can be derived from their characters. So again at times it requires the child to derive the meaning based on the basics they have learnt in the set of characters prescribed.Hi parents, I like to get some views on Chinese (not Maths!)
I find that the Chinese stuff covered in textbooks (even including those sections for HCL kids) are rather limited and yet the school probably expects proficiency in the language at a much higher standard.
For eg looking at 好朋友 which my kid brought back - a chinese mag which I believe most schools get the kids to subscribe. In order to read and comprehend the stories and do worksheets, you will need to know much more Chinese characters than what is covered in textbooks. Worse, Chinese is a language where you need to learn and internalise each character, one by one - no real shortcut unlike English which you can learn to decode unfamiliar words after a while.
I dont know what standard the school will test at - but I would imagine knowing the stuff in textbooks wont be sufficient. If not for much time spent on learning Chinese through enrichment, I doubt my kid could cope with what is expected even at P1 level.
I believe both eng and chinese compos, if one can use more words and use it well, the language points will increase. Content is again dependent on how wide a child reads.
The thing about Chinese standard being unlevelled today is that both SAP schools and non-SAP schools take the same Chinese exam and HCL, even though the learning environment is vastly differently. -
Chenonceau:
Chenon, Chinese standard is low to SAP schools learners and high to non-SAP school learners so I suppose HCL is supposed to make that differentiation of a higher competency student in Chinese and that one allows one to upgrade to a SAP school in sec or remain in a non-SAP school in sec.Musings... I dunno what is in Chinese syllabus because I can't read Chinese. I do know however that Grandma spent P1 to P4 ensuring my son mastered everything in textbook and his grades just went down... down... down.
In P4, I took over. We didn't flip textbooks for a good 6 to 7 months. I exposed him to a high volume of new Chinese words. He did badly in all the ting xie (because no time to study textbook)... but his grades went up... up... up because compo went up, oral went up, compre went up. MCQ went down because that is the only section where syllabus circumscribed words are consistently tested.
I managed to get model compos from a neighbourhood school in Woodlands and showed to Grandma, whose eyeballs popped out and she said that the compos were more difficult than the textbook passages. So now, Grandma believes me when I tell her that you can't just rely on textbook.
But then... there are people who think that PSLE Chinese paper is much easier than the other papers and therefore Chinese standard is low. Also very mysterious. :?
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