Parents, not enrichment centres, are key to result

[phtthp]

so the key question is …

for parents, how to motivate an un-motivated / dis-interested child to adopt a correct positive attitude, willing to learn ?

bec if the attitude is not there - be it come for tuition or enrichment, also no use.

[Lynn2010]

PiggyLalala:

Btw, the GE also did not teach the kids on solving simultaneous equations.

See lah... that's why my son's ex best friend JJ, in GEP, has to go for tuition too!!!!!!!![/quote]

Last year they did teach the GE students simultaneous eq for my dd sch[/quote]

You mean there is a worksheet on solving simultaneous equations?[/quote]

Yep.... abt 2 wks of lessons and i almost wrote a letter of complaint..... Here i was \"kan cheong\" abt prep for PSLE and they seemed so relax and had not started the prep. This was last yr i was talking abt. My dd Sec 1 lah

[DesertWind]

2ppaamm:

In schools, it is about KPIs, in tuition centers, it is about money. The safest haven is home. So what does this leave a kid without educated parents. A kid like me?

Gee....I am beginning to understand why there are talks about \"elite\" and \"elitist\" and \"elite schools\" nowadays. Given the current school, tuition, home-schooling phenomenon, seems like only kids who can afford tuition or got home-schooled can navigate through the existing school curriculum. Which means a kid like me with illiterate parents would be greatly disadvantaged. :sick:

[DesertWind]

insider:

So, personally I feel it's not the school, it's not the tuition/enrichment, and it's not the parents, it's the CHILD!

Wow, after 58 pages, I think I have found my enlightenment, able to resolve the conflicts within myself and have peace already with your conclusion. Yes, lets not forget our CHILD in all this! :salute:

Goodnight!

[janet88]

DesertWind:

2ppaamm:

In schools, it is about KPIs, in tuition centers, it is about money. The safest haven is home. So what does this leave a kid without educated parents. A kid like me?

Given the current school, tuition, home-schooling phenomenon, seems like only kids who can afford tuition or got home-schooled can navigate through the existing school curriculum. Which means a kid like me with illiterate parents would be greatly disadvantaged. :sick:

It is absolutely crazy that school teachers are not able to help kids pass exams...I am stupid where math is concerned...son flunked maths last year for CA1 and SA1...(p5)...hubby doesn't know how to coach him...if not for my neighbor who recommended math tutor, he would have failed SA2 as well. I just cannot understand why education system has become like this :stompfeet: all the algebra we were once taught can be returned to the teacher since it cannot be used to teach our own kids anymore.

[Lynn2010]

PiggyLalala:

sleepyqueen:

jesschan,

Here is it based on elkniwt's upload:
http://i41.tinypic.com/1z676s4.jpg\">

Just a word of caution, when i said 'simultaneous equations', it does not mean the complicated 'simultaneous equations' like above.
I think the above solution is too complicated for the P6 students to handle.

Sorry to quote old post..... as i was reading page by page with interest.

Is this extracted fr GEP worksheet?? My dd got this sort of qtn last year that drives me crazy. Not that i cant teach her but i told her using simultaneous eqn method for P6 is crazy.... I dont think this sort of qtn will be set for PSLE. I taught her simultaneous eqn and the whole lot and she has wasted 2 wks of Math lesson on this :mad:

[2ppaamm]

Lynn2010:

PiggyLalala:

[quote=\"sleepyqueen\"]jesschan,

Here is it based on elkniwt's upload:
http://i41.tinypic.com/1z676s4.jpg\">

Just a word of caution, when i said 'simultaneous equations', it does not mean the complicated 'simultaneous equations' like above.
I think the above solution is too complicated for the P6 students to handle.

Sorry to quote old post..... as i was reading page by page with interest.

Is this extracted fr GEP worksheet?? My dd got this sort of qtn last year that drives me crazy. Not that i cant teach her but i told her using simultaneous eqn method for P6 is crazy.... I dont think this sort of qtn will be set for PSLE. I taught her simultaneous eqn and the whole lot and she has wasted 2 wks of Math lesson on this :mad:[/quote]Er.... don't stone me har... DS1 and DS2 could solve simultaneous in P1, and DS3 in P3, DD1 and DD2 in P4. Don't need to teach leh... they figured by staring at it (instead of x and y, they were stars and circles). I think they were doing trial and error in their minds. By and by, they could solve the difficult simultaneous on their own, as I show them progressively difficult ones. The method' occur to them as they do more and more trial and error.

That's why I wonder what all these models are about?! School teachers don't like their stare and give answers, but when they reached P6, they somehow knew how to show their working, and they never got penalized for not using models.

[jedamum]

2ppaamm:

Er.... don't stone me har...

[2ppaamm]

2ppaamm:

Er.... don't stone me har... DS1 and DS2 could solve simultaneous in P1, and DS3 in P3, DD1 and DD2 in P4. Don't need to teach leh... they figured by staring at it (instead of x and y, they were stars and circles). I think they were doing trial and error in their minds. By and by, they could solve the difficult simultaneous on their own, as I show them progressively difficult ones. The method' occur to them as they do more and more trial and error.

That's why I wonder what all these models are about?! School teachers don't like their stare and give answers, but when they reached P6, they somehow knew how to show their working, and they never got penalized for not using models.

Sorry, sorry. Take that back. Not no need to teach. It should be not as difficult as it seems to teach. My 2 DDs came back and tell me the school struggled to teach simultaneous at the end of P6 because some questions cannot be solved otherwise. Most students drew a blurr.

To teach simultaneous, you just need to get the students to 'realize' the pattern. If you simply teach a method, then it will take really, really long. So yes, even a young P1 can discover the pattern without being taught, if you show him simple patterns first, and make it more and more difficult with pictures and symbols.

[Nebbermind]

I think the above ‘triangle’ qn looks complicated coz they tried to solve it while the equations are still in fractions. Once these are converted to whole numbers, it’ll be alot easier.