Parents, not enrichment centres, are key to result
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Chenonceau:
does he mean the tuition industry needs to play a role. Tuition and enrichment fees are now a must because the education system can't deliver?
By broader society, does he mean the tuition industry needs to play a role. Tuition and enrichment fees are now a must because the education system can't deliver?looking4Tutor:
Because parents are part of the educational system, and are being expected much more -
The minister (Mr.Heng), however, acknowledged
that “we expect much more of the education
system than it can deliver”. It is thus
important for parents, teachers, and the
broader society to play a role in the education
system, he stressed.
Did he really say this? Looking4tutor, can you include your reference for your quote from HSK. Where and when did he say this... and where is it reported?
We expect more of the system because it expects more of our kids. We need to bridge the gap because the system cannot teach to the standards it expects of the kids. The role of tuition, enrichment and parents is to bridge this gap between what the schools & the PSLE tests BUT has no resources to give skills practice and individualized feedback in. Expect less of the kids and the demands on the system will lighten up too.
I know people who teach at Learning Lab and Mindstretcher. They don't write their own materials. They're given materials to teach with. If 2 small organisations can achieve this, why can't MOE help its teachers similarly?
I know people who teach at Learning Lab and Mindstretcher. They don't write their own materials. They're given materials to teach with. If 2 small organisations can achieve this, why can't MOE help its teachers similarly?[/quote]
Yes, I agree with you. -
Chenonceau:
But since these centres r known to have entry exams and their material caters mainly to the higer scorer of the cohort so that they can be pushed further (at a cost). Do we really wanna dump this material to the rest of the cohort when they r not quite ready?
I know people who teach at Learning Lab and Mindstretcher. They don't write their own materials. They're given materials to teach with. If 2 small organisations can achieve this, why can't MOE help its teachers similarly? -
Nebbermind:
Funny that you read things I did not write. I did not say to use these centres' materials. I said that MOE should provide ample materials to its own teachers to teach with... suitable for whatever the level.
But since these centres r known to have entry exams and their material caters mainly to the higer scorer of the cohort so that they can be pushed further (at a cost). Do we really wanna dump this material to the rest of the cohort when they r not quite ready?Chenonceau:
I know people who teach at Learning Lab and Mindstretcher. They don't write their own materials. They're given materials to teach with. If 2 small organisations can achieve this, why can't MOE help its teachers similarly?
Mindstretcher has no entrance exam. Only its high achievers' program requires an entrance exam. If Mindstretcher can develop materials for 2 different types of students, why not MOE? -
u r right! my mistake
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What I really really wanna know is if HSK REALLY said that the education system can’t deliver, and therefore parents/tutors/enrichment (i.e., broader society) needs to help.
The solution is easy… stop testing beyond what the system can comfortably teach. Let crazy parents hothouse their kids into Cambridge at age 15, but don’t let the whole system chase after the crazies. Test less, and we will expect less of the system. Expect less of our flesh and blood and we will expect less of the system. -
Chenonceau:
It's in this morning's papers. He was speaking at an SMU event.
By broader society, does he mean the tuition industry needs to play a role. Tuition and enrichment fees are now a must because the education system can't deliver?looking4Tutor:
Because parents are part of the educational system, and are being expected much more -
The minister (Mr.Heng), however, acknowledged
that “we expect much more of the education
system than it can deliver”. It is thus
important for parents, teachers, and the
broader society to play a role in the education
system, he stressed.
Did he really say this? Looking4tutor, can you include your reference for your quote from HSK. Where and when did he say this... and where is it reported? -
toddles:
Alright then people... you heard it from the boss. He has sanctioned tuition/enrichment/homsechooling because his system can't deliver the results he expects from our kids.
It's in this morning's papers. He was speaking at an SMU event. -
Chenonceau:
I read the article in today's paper. Don't think that's what he was saying.
Alright then people... you heard it from the boss. He has sanctioned tuition/enrichment/homsechooling because his system can't deliver the results he expects from our kids.toddles:
It's in this morning's papers. He was speaking at an SMU event. -
Chenonceau:
:rotflmao: no lah that's not what he implied, but o well since flooding can be ponding any interpretation also can lah.
Alright then people... you heard it from the boss. He has sanctioned tuition/enrichment/homsechooling because his system can't deliver the results he expects from our kids.toddles:
It's in this morning's papers. He was speaking at an SMU event.
From Today http://imcmsimages.mediacorp.sg/CMSFileserver/documents/006/PDF/20120201/0102HNP003.pdf
He said \"don't just chase for paper\"; you have to chase the paper plus acquiring more employable skill-sets.
This is my coffee-shop chit-chat interpretation of the taiji educational system -
Yes, parents need to do more for their children, not just helping them chase the paper but to build their character too.
Yes, broader society should set up more tuition and enrichment centres. As they are profit-making, they should ensure that the children under them pass whatever tests and major exams and prepare them in advance for the class lessons.
As for teachers they will cover whatever printed on the text books. If they go the extra miles they will consolidated all the questions and asnwers from this forum (like what I did for my ds - cos no money for tutor), as they might not have time to write their teaching materials. They will also relentlessly ask parents to send their children to the broader society so as to catch up with the rest of the smaller society in the classroom.
This is the 18 movements of taiji educational system.
End of my nonsensical coffee shop talks. -
Chenonceau:
Chenonceau , I second this :goodpost:What I really really wanna know is if HSK REALLY said that the education system can't deliver, and therefore parents/tutors/enrichment (i.e., broader society) needs to help.
The solution is easy... stop testing beyond what the system can comfortably teach. Let crazy parents hothouse their kids into Cambridge at age 15, but don't let the whole system chase after the crazies. Test less, and we will expect less of the system. Expect less of our flesh and blood and we will expect less of the system.
we need more informed parents to second this :hi5:
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