MOE Relooking P1 registration - Too much priority to alumni

[Baby_May_09]

My above post is just explaining the difference between full school and non-full school from what I know. My stand on the topic is that I can see that alumni connection is important like what many had said, but I also feel that there should be a cap ie. 1/3 of the remaining places after phase 1?

[vicki]

vratenza:

vicki:

[quote=\"vratenza\"]
you chose to ignore my most pertinent point, and if you cannot see beyond this, I have no more to add..really....

\"the same school management committee and during my days, I remembered myself helping out in the primary school's sport's day, excursions and such. There are mentoring programs for the older secondary school students to help the younger primary section students.
It is one big family.\"

Ok - lets continue with this discussion.

Same school mgmt comm? Not difficult wat - just combine 2 groups to report under one P.

Help out primary school areas - not difficult wat? If there is only one Principal - he can ask his students to do it.

So the underlying problem is BECAUSE there are 2 Principals - each therefore does not have absolute authority over both areas. However, if one ask the other to help - it will surely be rendered (in those rare occassion). So is it a simplistic thing to say - remove one P and therefore it is a Full School?

My boy is in the primary section of a FULL SCHOOL now and No, i dont see the secondary students helping out much. Recess time? the P5 guides. Excursion? PVs/ PSG helps out.

So - back to my - EXACTLY what constitutes a FULL SCHOOL n what doesnt? Is it a 2 P vs 1 P issue?

So No - im not avoiding your line of thought - i just want to know what differentiates CHS/St Nics with CHIJ TP?

I stated clearly \"in my days\" those things happened and that is the reason why I think makes the difference in terms of cohesiveness of the school and effort to integrate and interact Pri and Sec school section. And that is also why I feel it is fair that CHS is considered full school.

If it did not occur for your son, I also cannot explain because I am not the FULL SCHOOL's P or it's management committee. Each school has their own culture and ways, that brings us back to debunk Mr Hean's assertion that all schools are same.

Nobody can tell you what differentiates between CHS/St Nics vs CHIJ TP unless they have children in both of them to compare.

Honestly, I'm just glad I am on this side of fence with the greener grass.[/quote]Yup - you are on the right side of fence with the greener grass...

I am too - if current procedures remain.

So, why am i fighting for the 'under priviledged' for what i feel is the 'common good'?

:? I must be :siao:

[lim72]

Read this http://www.tremeritus.com/2012/03/30/why-are-foreigners-allowed-to-join-alumnis/ to find out the true objective of having Alumni.

[vicki]

Baby_May_09:

My above post is just explaining the difference between full school and non-full school from what I know. My stand on the topic is that I can see that alumni connection is important like what many had said, but I also feel that there should be a cap ie. 1/3 of the remaining places after phase 1?

Agree too.

[dorisp]

vicki:

Yup - you are on the right side of fence with the greener grass...

I am too - if current procedures remain.

So, why am i fighting for the 'under priviledged' for what i feel is the 'common good'?

:? I must be :siao:

Don't worry. You are not alone.

[LOLMum]

as much as a school would like to take in all applicants, it is impossible.


schools (be it popular or neighbourhood) have to reduce the intake because it is switching to one session.

from what i know, acsp is unable to add places because there is really no more space in the school to squeeze in another class.

[vicki]

vratenza:

the ABSOLUTE PRIORITY at this point in time are the P1. there is no Absolute priority for P2 at this stage...you can argue till the cows come home on the CAP vs no CAP issue, that's not my fight.

And the list I proposed are just reasons why some parents prefer to choose their alumni for their children. Please read the post carefully and refrain from altering my intentions.

Please do not start stirring the hornet's nest on taxpayer money argument. Some one will come along and ask you which tax bracket are you paying this year.....do you really want to go there?

I apologise if i misread you.

But i wonder - if REALLY there is a cap, would the 'primary' school student then be 'fighting' with the 'secondary' school students? An interesting thought.

My mention of tax was to imply that we all 'pay' to the govt (irregardless of tax brackets) - so i dont see why 'too much' benefit should be given to anyone group based on personal reasons...

[vratenza]

vicki:

Yup - you are on the right side of fence with the greener grass...

I am too - if current procedures remain.

So, why am i fighting for the 'under priviledged' for what i feel is the 'common good'?

:? I must be :siao:

Kudos to your altruistic intentions! :salute:

I must admit that looking out for the \"under-priviledged\" is not on my radar.

Partly because my definition of \"under-priviledged\" in the education sense will be more towards those children from broken families who cannot even afford to pay their misc fees, textbooks, uniform and recess meals in the non-popular \"neighbourhood\" schools. That is why i contribute to the ST School Pocket Money fund and children's society on a regular basis.

Pardon me but I really don't feel that those parent's fighting to get their children into popular schools are \"under-privileged\" so to speak.

[3Boys]

lim72:

Read this http://www.tremeritus.com/2012/03/30/why-are-foreigners-allowed-to-join-alumnis/ to find out the true objective of having Alumni.

True according to who? tremeritus? I'd rather read Rupert Murdoch's papers.

Even though I am also in favour of scrapping alumni priority, the tremeritus article is pure bigoted speculative drivel, far from being 'fact'

[vratenza]

vicki:

But i wonder - if REALLY there is a cap, would the 'primary' school student then be 'fighting' with the 'secondary' school students? An interesting thought.

Interesting indeed, and that problem will be limited to those few full schools.
No one can predict the future, even the government, so we shall see how it pans out in the next few years....I'm sure there will be a few more rounds of \"tweaking\" in the next couple of years.

vicki:

My mention of tax was to imply that we all 'pay' to the govt (irregardless of tax brackets) - so i dont see why 'too much' benefit should be given to anyone group based on personal reasons such as those you mention...

Foreigners and PRs pay tax too...some even more than the average SC joes...... and I am hazarding a guess tat you support SC first policy right? So it's totally inappropriate to bring it into the picture.

What's next? COE system for P1 registration? :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: