MOE Relooking P1 registration - Too much priority to alumni
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mamemo, Thumbs Up, well said!
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mamemo:
BUT, BUT, advert is really just adverts !! (quite pervert too) do you think they all really had all their tuition there ? They just blow their trumpet even if the student were there for just one term and found then unsuitable .... tsk tsk tsk ...... an advert does not say everything, please ! I think they like customer like you .... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:I'm a silent reader of this thread since it started. I'm really amazed at the great focus on P1 registration. Actually if you look at the big picture, all Singapore's children has a chance to study, whether or not they succeed in the balloting. Yes, although not all schools are the same, they are guided by MOE's curriculum.
I thought that MOE's focus should be on how to improve the curriculum, rather than P1 registration. The curriculum now is so \"teach less, learn more (which I doubt so)\", that parents have a spend a bomb to engage tutors to supplement the learning. This trend exists in every school, whether a top school or a neighbourhood school. In fact, top students usually have more external tuition (just look at mind stretchers' advertisements)
So isn't this a more urgent and pressing need instead of P1 registration? So what if the alumni is capped, then your child manage to get into the top school ? You are subjecting your child to even more stress with more tuitions!
On a side note, I hope that MOE makes the right policies, instead of the popular policies. We'll be in deep trouble if the government just follows what the majority says without studying the statistics, cause-and-effects of policies. -
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I make a funny \"Popiah\" analogy. Please bear with me.
uDad: Why Sg-BestMakan.com Editor declare Popiah-A is “Popiah of the Decade\"? Even better than Popiah-B?
I think Popiah B should be “Popiah of the Decade\".
Me: Sg-BestMakan.com has 131 pages of forum opinions on that.
Maybe you can go through them and consolidate the opinions on why Popiah-B is better. Share with all. Thank you in advance.
BTW, I like Popiah-A more than B.
uDad: I have been participating in all of the 131 pages in Sg-BestMakan.com. In the forum, I said I want reason on why Sg-BestMakan.com Editor declare Popiah-A is “Popiah of the Decade\", and not Popiah-B.
I don’t agree Popiah A is better.
Me: If you think the 131 pages of opinions on Popiah A may be one-sided … Then, contact Sg-BestMakan.com or their Editor for their official Unbiased stand on this - Popiah-A is “Popiah of the Decade’? Please share with forum.
uDad: Hey! Do not pretend to act smart and try to brush off my question.
IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY SOLID REASON WHY POPIAH-B IS SUPERIOR, ITS BETTER TO JUST KEEP MUM!.
Maybe I detest HYPOCRITES ….
Me: But I merely making a suggestion on where/how to get answer to your question…. Why am I accused of being a hypocrite?
uDad: You have wrongly accused me of not reading the opinions! Not only did you not apologise for your mistake, you conveniently ignore it!
How dare you throw the ball back to my court … An admission of your guilt ??
Me: What ball? I catch no ball … guilty of what exactly? Making suggestions?
uDad: I'm not seeking any answer per se on Popiah-B being better.....
Me: But you just said you want “solid reason for Popiah-B or keep mum”…. Change your mind?
uDad: I'm more interested in facilitating discussion and creating awareness so that more people will talk about it.
Me: I’m confused. Change mind or additional expectation?
So you don’t want solid reason why Popiah-B is better?
Or you want facilitate discussion and awareness about SOLID reasons for Popiah-B only?
uDad: In fact, I did feedback to Sg-BestMakan.com and their website feedback unit. But I did not request for the answer why Popiah-A better. To me, its not an issue of right or wrong `answer', Sg-BestMakan.com team just need to review the current popiah scheme based on current situation and sentiments.
Me: So change again? Now you DON\"T WANT to know why Popiah-A is “Popiah of the Decade’ and Popiah-B is not? Then why you demanded for a reason right at the beginning?
Like I said, If Sg-BestMakan.com reply to you... please share with forum.
uDad: Often times, it’s the people who knows something is not right who then wants to keep things under wrap and hush hush.
Me: With 131 (now 137) pages of Popiah opinions open to the billions on the net, how to keep things under warp & hush-hush?
Ladies and Gentleman, it’s really amazing how ridiculous things has turned out.
You judge for yourself if you want to talk to uDad about Popiah anymore.
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I go eat my favorite popiah first.
IDad:
I'm not offended but I'm surprised you can't read between the lines....in fact, I did feedback to MOE and Govt feedback unit. I did not request for the answer for Alumni priority . To me, its not an issue of right or wrong `answer', MOE just need to review the current scheme based on current situation and sentiments.Lyddon:
Or maybe you are just very patient and hope MOE or Mr Heng to respond to this forum to give (I quote) \" solid reason why alumni deserve priority over church or clan\". [/color][/b]Keep mum? I am smart enough to know you have no admins right nor the 'solid' justification to request admin to do so.
Note to all forumers, if you do not have (I quote again) \"solid reason why alumni deserve priority over church or clan\" ... be prepare to be told to keep mum too.
Like many others, I have clearly given my opinions on this topic. If you think the pro-alumni views posted so far are not solid enough, it would be futile to repeat or consolidate them for you.
I am perfectly contented with the current Pri.1 registration policies and see no need to question further or seek 'solid' answers.
You are contented, but I'm not. Even though myself and my boy have benefited from the alumni scheme, I'm adamant church, clan is on equal footing with alumni. I feel alumni should not even be under phase 2A but classify under 2B together with church and clan. As for GRL priority in 2B, its really debatable. I know their contribution is not always obvious but I have seen some RCs set up after school day care centres and tuition centres for students near to primary schools. While they do not give priority to these students in the after school day care centre, the proximity of the centres were deliberately chosen to minimize the distance between the primary schools and the centres so as to facilitate the ease of movement of students from school to centres. That is just an example of how GRLs might justify their contribution but then not all RCs can contribute this way (either due to lack of funds or there just isn't any schools in that RC zone). Thus its rather difficult to establish a direct contribution of GRLs to justify their priority in phase 2B....but oh well, we are discussing alumni priority anyway, so.....
After pointing out you have wrongly accused me of not reading the posts, in typical `mgmt style' not only did you not apologise for your mistake, you conveniently ignore it, and even pro-offered actions for me like contacting MOE myself, effectively throwing the ball back to my court with admission of guilt. Unfortunately Dude, I'm not seeking any answer per se.....I'm more interested in faciliating discussion and creating awareness so that more people will talk about it. Given time, MOE will get to hear it. In fact, I'm sure they are already aware of the ground sentiments. But the more people discuss the issue, the more likely they would take some action if they deem Alumni priority needs tweaking. In fact, I urge more people to feedback via Mr Heng SK Facebook page, Govt Feeback portal \"REACH\" and MOE directly.
Often times, its the people who knows something is not right who then wants to keep things under wrap and hush hush..... -
mamemo:
Welcome to the thread.....So isn't this a more urgent and pressing need instead of P1 registration? So what if the alumni is capped, then your child manage to get into the top school ? You are subjecting your child to even more stress with more tuitions!
On a side note, I hope that MOE makes the right policies, instead of the popular policies. We'll be in deep trouble if the government just follows what the majority says without studying the statistics, cause-and-effects of policies.
Well.... the fact that we are here on this very topic doesn't mean we think there arn't any other more urgent and pressing needs......perhaps someone can start a new thread on those urgent needs.......
As far as I know, many here \"argued\" for what they think is common good. They are not suggesting for a cap to 2A so that their child could get into the \"top school\" so whether whose child goes tution or get any stressed more should not be too much of a concern. On the same line of reasoning, does that mean that you are, at the same time, discouraging alumni from \"top schools\" to enrol their child into their alma mater owing to the threat of more tution and stress? :evil:
Like you, I also hope that MOE makes the right policies by constantly reviewing it to make it relevant in response to the ever changing landscape. If a policy gives too much privilege to a certain group, there better be a very good reason. Besides the \"under privileged\", I hope someone could raise another example whereby our national policy gives extended privilege to a certain group of people. If there is any, it will be worth another thread. If there isn't any, I don't see why our educational policy should be granted the exception to enjoy such.
No harm, this is a good forum for us to air our friendly opinions and a constant relentless reminder for the authority to review the system.
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vicki:
I third it!! :)[/quote]You have a fourth! :please:
I second that! :celebrate:laughingcat:
[quote=\"janet_lee88\"]Hi Chief,
This thread is not going anywhere...it's advisable to close case.
MOE has already made the move to give priority to Singaporeans and even that can stir up issues with comments like 'PURE' Singaporeans and converted ones. It's not healthy.
Please close this thread. Also the other thread on about SC vs PR. I hate that thread. It just looks ugly.
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Heh forumers,
How many reminders do we need that no personal attack and name calling? Remember what Mod said.......tankee:
Mod's Note
Please focus the discussion, debate, etc on the topic and comments, but not at each other. Do not get personal.
There will alway be differences in opinion. Please accept that and agree to disagree. -
dorisp:
IMHO, I agree and support \"alumni\" be accorded some \"privilege\" but it should be capped, or shared evenly with 2B and 2C and not be given in an \"unlimited\" manner. Just friendly share share my opinion. I do not mind if anyone disagrees so let's discuss peacefully.
Do you mind sharing with us what is at stake for you, dorisp? Or nothing at stake for you at all also can declare so we know what is the driving force behind your posts. Of course it is also your right to totally ignore my question...
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Lyddon:
Errrr.. I think you are the one who is changing your mind (at least in this Popiah analogy).. First, you started off liking Popiah A, then somewhere in the middle, you seem to have switched your liking to:offtopic:
I make a funny \"Popiah\" analogy. Please bear with me.
uDad: Why Sg-BestMakan.com Editor declare Popiah-A is “Popiah of the Decade\"? Even better than Popiah-B?
I think Popiah B should be “Popiah of the Decade\".
Me: Sg-BestMakan.com has 131 pages of forum opinions on that.
Maybe you can go through them and consolidate the opinions on why Popiah-B is better. Share with all. Thank you in advance.
BTW, I like Popiah-A more than B.
uDad: I have been participating in all of the 131 pages in Sg-BestMakan.com. In the forum, I said I want reason on why Sg-BestMakan.com Editor declare Popiah-A is “Popiah of the Decade\", and not Popiah-B.
I don’t agree Popiah A is better.
Me: If you think the 131 pages of opinions on Popiah A may be one-sided … Then, contact Sg-BestMakan.com or their Editor for their official Unbiased stand on this - Popiah-A is “Popiah of the Decade’? Please share with forum.
uDad: Hey! Do not pretend to act smart and try to brush off my question.
IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY SOLID REASON WHY POPIAH-B IS SUPERIOR, ITS BETTER TO JUST KEEP MUM!.
Maybe I detest HYPOCRITES ….
Me: But I merely making a suggestion on where/how to get answer to your question…. Why am I accused of being a hypocrite?
uDad: You have wrongly accused me of not reading the opinions! Not only did you not apologise for your mistake, you conveniently ignore it!
How dare you throw the ball back to my court … An admission of your guilt ??
Me: What ball? I catch no ball … guilty of what exactly? Making suggestions?
uDad: I'm not seeking any answer per se on Popiah-B being better.....
Me: But you just said you want “solid reason for Popiah-B or keep mum”…. Change your mind?
uDad: I'm more interested in facilitating discussion and creating awareness so that more people will talk about it.
Me: I’m confused. Change mind or additional expectation?
So you don’t want solid reason why Popiah-B is better?
Or you want facilitate discussion and awareness about SOLID reasons for Popiah-B only?
uDad: In fact, I did feedback to Sg-BestMakan.com and their website feedback unit. But I did not request for the answer why Popiah-A better. To me, its not an issue of right or wrong `answer', Sg-BestMakan.com team just need to review the current popiah scheme based on current situation and sentiments.
Me: So change again? Now you DON\"T WANT to know why Popiah-A is “Popiah of the Decade’ and Popiah-B is not? Then why you demanded for a reason right at the beginning?
Like I said, If Sg-BestMakan.com reply to you... please share with forum.
uDad: Often times, it’s the people who knows something is not right who then wants to keep things under wrap and hush hush.
Me: With 131 (now 137) pages of Popiah opinions open to the billions on the net, how to keep things under warp & hush-hush?
Ladies and Gentleman, it’s really amazing how ridiculous things has turned out.
You judge for yourself if you want to talk to uDad about Popiah anymore.
:slapshead: :slapshead: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Popiah B.. and somewhere at the end, you changed your liking back to Popiah A again.. :scratchhead:
Must be the effects of consuming too much Popiahs, with Tiger... :siam: -
Haha…the popiah is just analogy. I guess is to liven up the tense atmosphere.
I read that the confusion is the other way round lah. Read carefully lor. Or did you drink too much Tiger? Can share with me?
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