By Election for Hougang

[Joule]

he’s working in NTUC


that means…he’s very free

wah lau, double dipping man. Got NTUC "cho bo" pay and got MP allowance some more

HUAT AH

[concern2]

php:

Don't need to worry for him la....his master already charted out his political career path....he is in his early 30s...excluding this BE, he still can fight for another GE...by then if he still can't take HG, he will probably say bye-bye HG, tag along with a minister in a GRC and receives his monthly $15k reward for his \"loyalty and hardwork\" in HG...by then, you will see whether he will drop tears for HG voters or not....

?? So the highlight was this onie ah? Hm..It's cooling off day hor...better don't talk too much.. :censored:

[Intermezzo]

Hi Chen,


Re: numbers of unhappy parents vs unhappy.

Precisely as you said, we don’t know! I don’t know exactly how many parents are happy and how many are unhappy.

What I said was "For every parent complaining and making noise about education, there MIGHT be another 2 whose kids are happy and enjoying school".

So i’m not about to speak for parents of singapore if I don’t know roughly how many are happy and unhappy what…

And more importantly, I don’t even know for what reasons they are unhappy with the education of singapore. Is it for the right reasons or for the wrong reasons?

How many people took the polls here? Are they statistically reliable? Does the poll here reflect the situation in the whole of singapore? I don’t know, that’s why I would never speak collectively for the parents of singapore.

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I’ve never paid much attention to what MOE says, honestly…
Did they say PSLE standard never went up? Frankly, it doesn’t matter much to me either way, as long as I know my kids are not studying solely for the purpose of PSLE.

Your Question was : who truly believed that PSLE standards did not rise over the years?

So i answered, Yes, from what i observed, it has gone up, as it should.

eg. Maths syllabus today requires more thinking and logic skills. I think that’s great.
New methods like models and heristics are being taught to help students learn how to think in different ways. I think that’s great too.
So exams standard changes to cater to the students’ new skills level. Seems legit.

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No no no I don’t own any Ipad / tablet whatever and neither do my kids.
I am just giving one example of what students nowadays can use for learning, compared to say 20 years ago.

(This is what I said:

The process of Learning is getting more fun. (Ipad!) The sharing of knowledge-related resources is getting so easy with better books and the TV and internet.)

I didn’t say i have an ipad. I only meant it’s a device that can make learning fun for some people. But yes I have a TV and internet and the public library has lots of good books, so of course nobody NEEDS an ipad if they really want to learn.

Honestly, I am not one of the so-called privileged few. We are just an Average family.
We live in HDB that hasn’t been renovated in 20 years, and I’m an SAHM, no maid, so DIY most things myself. I don’t own a single condo, branded bag, LV or Jimmy Choo or whatever… I’ve never been to Europe or US for holiday… I’ve never stepped into a spa, and the last time i went to a beautician was for my wedding day and that’s like 15 years ago… Oh wait, i think all that just made me below average in singapore… :x

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Of course, there’s nothing wrong with wanting better textbooks and better resources.

But in singapore there are so many resources available all around us! From my house alone (HDB) i can count a total of 5 public libraries that can be reached by a bus journey of about 30min.

We don’t believe in spoonfeeding right? We believe a little hardship is character-building, right? We believe in reading beyond the textbooks right? We don’t believe in learning just for PSLE right? So just look for whatever resources that inspires and interests our kids, and PSLE will take care of itself.

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I repeat, I am not top of the heap. In fact, you just made me realize i’m somewhere lower than average.

And I am generally very patient with people. I just don’t have much for people who complains too easily rather than try to do something to make the best of the situation.

If you (of all people) want to call me highly-educated, I am very flattered, really.
But it’s all relative, right? I don’t even have a PhD or MBA.

And a cute smile is very powerful wor… i think CSM’s smile can 一笑倾城 …

ps. got to do housework now… so might not answer your post, if any. Sorry in advance… take care.

[Way2GO]

concern2:

?? So the highlight was this onie ah? Hm..It's cooling off day hor...better don't talk too much.. :censored:

No prob if u r just sharing personal views n not campaigning.
Press release on 'cooling off day'
http://www.eld.gov.sg/pressrelease/ParE2012/2012-05-23%20cooling%20off%20day%20and%20polling%20day.pdf

extract: para (e) under heading \" There are some exceptions to the prohibition of campaign activities on Cooling-off Day:\"
Quote : \"The transmission of personal political views by individuals to other
individuals, on a non-commercial basis, using the Internet, telephone or
electronic means\" unquote.

just preface msg with IMV or IMHO
Cheers.

[fightingmom]

naddy:

dorisp:

Is there any live telecast for the results?

there will surely be live telecast on saturday night.

I know it is a bit early but does anyone has any idea what time the live telecast for the results will be ? Wouldn't want to miss out Yam Ah Mee reading out the results

[hquek]

polling closes at 8pm. Ya think the results will be out by 10pm?


All the best, Hougang!

[wonderm]

[quote=\"Intermezzo\"]Hi Chen,


Re: numbers of unhappy parents vs unhappy.

Precisely as you said, we don't know! I don't know exactly how many parents are happy and how many are unhappy.

What I said was \"For every parent complaining and making noise about education, there MIGHT be another 2 whose kids are happy and enjoying school\".

So i'm not about to speak for parents of singapore if I don't know roughly how many are happy and unhappy what..

And more importantly, I don't even know for what reasons they are unhappy with the education of singapore. Is it for the right reasons or for the wrong reasons?

How many people took the polls here? Are they statistically reliable? Does the poll here reflect the situation in the whole of singapore? I don't know, that's why I would never speak collectively for the parents of singapore.

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Intermezzo, thanks for providing a different perspective.

My kids are happy and have been enjoying school. I am one of the happy parents. Yes, I agree my children are lucky in that they have educated parents and we are able to pay for some enrichment classes along the way. Most of these were just \"good-to-have\" and not \"forced-to-have\". They benefited from small class attention and more advanced teaching to stretch themselves. Most importantly, they enjoyed the classes.

Comparing to my own school days, I didn't have tuition at all. Although I did well in school academically, I think my children have a much better education in that the teaching is much more interesting, what they are learning is more relevant to the real world outside, and the education is more hoslistic than my time. As for textbooks, while I agree they are not sufficient if one wants to do very well in exams, they are certainly not worse than what I had. I don't remember MOE produced high quality textbooks for schools then.

Even though I am not too unhappy, I think it is true many parents and students feel much more stressed these days than decades ago. It is not just due to MOE not doing their job, in my opinion, but rather the world has become more competitive. When more parents and students starting from a very young age care a lot more about academic performance, when more parents are educated and able to either coach their children themselves or provide tuition, the overall stress level goes up.

I am not related to MOE nor the government and I am not against asking MOE to do a better job, just sharing my experience and thoughts. Please don't flame me :siam:

Sorry, :offtopic:

[iFirefly]

MMM:

hquek:

Hee, he better dun make it into a habit. TPL mentioned about someone before for dropping tears right? Anyway, he was only in HG for a year right? Not twenty, not sure how he got so emo about it leh.

Hey... maybe he thinks he is trying to use his tears to fight the tuesday heavy downpour. Who gets wetter???? Or maybe just trying to melt aunties' heart.... I don't know

Come on.. don't you look down on these HG uncles & aunties! You think they are so easily swayed by good looks and a few drops of tears (or a heavy downpour)? I think they are more objective and rational than many of us here!

My grandaunt, who lives in HG, says she will vote for the PERSON (she did not say PARTY) who will help her when she needs help.. Simple as that.. Then she told me & my 2 kids, how one of the candidates had rendered help to her, not once but twice..

Well, at the age of 77, she certainly knows what she is doing.. That is the true blue HG aunties! Not some 'lusty' old women that some of you paint them to be.. :roll:

[limlim]

Intermezzo:

And I am generally very patient with people. I just don't have much for people who complains too easily rather than try to do something to make the best of the situation.

IMO, the enrichment phenomenon is certainty quite unhealthy.. (I don't use the word \"tuition\", that is assistance for those who needs extra help. The key issue here is \"Enrichment\", which is a luxury or additional push)

shouldn't the MOE do something about it....?

of coz, you can say that it's the parents choice whether to go for enrichment.. fair enough..

BUT, if the schools teach LESS bcoz most of the kids go for enrichment, and left the rest of the kids struggling due to insufficient coverage of the study material/content, it certainty isn't fair to the less privileged kid who have no \"Enrichment\" or cannot afford right..

MOE should enforce that teacher teach whatever is necessary for that syllabus and level.. and not fast forward simply bcoz majority of the student already got it bcoz they got enrichment.

I don't feel that it is a case of parents \"complaining easily\".... The MOE have an obligation to put things right.

[verykiasu2010]

refreshing viewpoints from Intermezzo and wonderm!


my kids too enjoy schools and they ever went for both cheap skate and not cheap (but mass market) enrichment

比上不足, 比下有余

depends where one is along the bell curve