What I hate about the current Singapore
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tankee:
peterch:
Join 16 June 2012 at 14.21
First post 16 June 2012 at 14.40, then thread starter don't bother to response in the discussion.
Later next few weeks, this thread will be on papers again
Cheers
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Tankee....... :oops: :oops: :oops: -
hokkiengirl:
:hi5: :rahrah:
I'm not sure I understand the point about the HDB flat. It has already been proven mathematically and in real life that people with an income of 1k really can afford a flat. Of course, the usual caveats are in place. The flat cannot possibly be a five-room flat in Bishan with a high floor and a sea view. The flat will most likely be a new 2-room flat in the newer areas (Punggol, Sengkang, right?) after subsidies and financial aid, etc. So what's the problem with this issue?Carnagejane:
I am just sickened by the recent news about the efforts to bond Singaporeans in view of the upcoming ndp 2012. Seriously, what exactly is there to LOVE about our little island? Here are some reasons:
1. Very COMPETENT ministers, think mr \" train breakdowns are unavoidable＂ transport czar. Or \" Singaporeans can indeed buy a hdb flat with a 1k income\" statement from well you know who.
For me, I don't hate anything in Singapore, but I am saddened that:
1) People seem to be in a state of constant discontent. We seem to have forgotten to count our blessings and have a knack for looking at everything negatively.
2) We can't agree to disagree politely and civilly. As long as we have different views about politics, religion, etc, that is reason enough to start mini wars online. Too many people make ugly and insulting comments online simply because the anonymity allows them to do so. A very unpleasant trend.
3) Too many people seem to be spolit and self-centred. It's all about them. Parents pamper and are over-protective of children. This leads to a generation that has a strong sense of entitlement and not enough drive.
4) We don't seem to want to take responsibility for our own actions. A lot of times, we at least have some form of control and choice over how we want to live our lives. We can choose to buy a car or take public transport. We can choose to have one parent stay home or for both to work. (I know this is entirely possible even for those from low-income families. I know several in my estate where the mum stays home even if Dad is not drawing a high salary.) We seem to want to blame someone else that our lives are not exactly the way we want them to be.
Can we acknowledge all that is wrong with our society without getting too caught up in the negativity, please? Let's try to make our world a little better in our own ways, if we think that life in Singapore is that stinky.
What I have done:
- given free/subsidised tuition to children from low-income families
-donated regularly to specific charities
- raised my children to not be ill-mannered cretins
- been a nice enough neighbour who tries to be considerate
- speak out against animal abuse when I see it
Yup, it's a list filled with itsy-bitsy things, but it's at least something...
(Ok, I'm bracing myself with my eyes closed. Let the flames come!!!!) -
If really talk about hate, it should be the elite system. Yes I hate it and I choose to act differently in educating my child on this. No need to be the top or the best because there is no such thing as the best. Most importantly, study what is of your interest and not what is so called the best combination. No need to have tuition in order to score the best. I have a big challenge in convincing my child on my believe because on the other side, the school is implanting them the elite virus.
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hokkiengirl:
Agreed. Support!!!
For me, I don't hate anything in Singapore, but I am saddened that:
1) People seem to be in a state of constant discontent. We seem to have forgotten to count our blessings and have a knack for looking at everything negatively.
2) We can't agree to disagree politely and civilly. As long as we have different views about politics, religion, etc, that is reason enough to start mini wars online. Too many people make ugly and insulting comments online simply because the anonymity allows them to do so. A very unpleasant trend.
3) Too many people seem to be spolit and self-centred. It's all about them. Parents pamper and are over-protective of children. This leads to a generation that has a strong sense of entitlement and not enough drive.
4) We don't seem to want to take responsibility for our own actions. A lot of times, we at least have some form of control and choice over how we want to live our lives. We can choose to buy a car or take public transport. We can choose to have one parent stay home or for both to work. (I know this is entirely possible even for those from low-income families. I know several in my estate where the mum stays home even if Dad is not drawing a high salary.) We seem to want to blame someone else that our lives are not exactly the way we want them to be. -
tankee:
Noted ..peterch:
Join 16 June 2012 at 14.21
First post 16 June 2012 at 14.40, then thread starter don't bother to response in the discussion.
Later next few weeks, this thread will be on papers again
Cheers
:goodpost:
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Sometimes I dun understand. Why such strong words 'hate'? Dislike perhaps. Hate? My P5 DD started uttering such words after she transferred to a 'better' Sch. Yeah, kids there are more vocal, demanding, selfish. Anyway I stopped her from using such strong words unnecessarily.
Maybe I have yet to feel the full impact, maybe I have yet to experience it.
'elite' - so what if there is? I know I am not there, I know I cannot be the top/best amongst others .....& I know my children will not be. If there are others who make it, it's theirs. There are people who are really really good. I suppose elitism exist everywhere. IMO as long as I do my part, my kids do their part, its alright isn't it?
Am starting to feel quite tired........ :gloomy: All these negativity in ksp is quite energy-sapping. :sad: -
hokkiengirl:
:goodpost: :goodpost: well done!
I'm not sure I understand the point about the HDB flat. It has already been proven mathematically and in real life that people with an income of 1k really can afford a flat. Of course, the usual caveats are in place. The flat cannot possibly be a five-room flat in Bishan with a high floor and a sea view. The flat will most likely be a new 2-room flat in the newer areas (Punggol, Sengkang, right?) after subsidies and financial aid, etc. So what's the problem with this issue?Carnagejane:
I am just sickened by the recent news about the efforts to bond Singaporeans in view of the upcoming ndp 2012. Seriously, what exactly is there to LOVE about our little island? Here are some reasons:
1. Very COMPETENT ministers, think mr \" train breakdowns are unavoidable＂ transport czar. Or \" Singaporeans can indeed buy a hdb flat with a 1k income\" statement from well you know who.
For me, I don't hate anything in Singapore, but I am saddened that:
1) People seem to be in a state of constant discontent. We seem to have forgotten to count our blessings and have a knack for looking at everything negatively.
2) We can't agree to disagree politely and civilly. As long as we have different views about politics, religion, etc, that is reason enough to start mini wars online. Too many people make ugly and insulting comments online simply because the anonymity allows them to do so. A very unpleasant trend.
3) Too many people seem to be spolit and self-centred. It's all about them. Parents pamper and are over-protective of children. This leads to a generation that has a strong sense of entitlement and not enough drive.
4) We don't seem to want to take responsibility for our own actions. A lot of times, we at least have some form of control and choice over how we want to live our lives. We can choose to buy a car or take public transport. We can choose to have one parent stay home or for both to work. (I know this is entirely possible even for those from low-income families. I know several in my estate where the mum stays home even if Dad is not drawing a high salary.) We seem to want to blame someone else that our lives are not exactly the way we want them to be.
Can we acknowledge all that is wrong with our society without getting too caught up in the negativity, please? Let's try to make our world a little better in our own ways, if we think that life in Singapore is that stinky.
What I have done:
- given free/subsidised tuition to children from low-income families
-donated regularly to specific charities
- raised my children to not be ill-mannered cretins
- been a nice enough neighbour who tries to be considerate
- speak out against animal abuse when I see it
Yup, it's a list filled with itsy-bitsy things, but it's at least something...
(Ok, I'm bracing myself with my eyes closed. Let the flames come!!!!) -
hokkiengirl:
EXCELLENT post hokkiengirl!!!
I'm not sure I understand the point about the HDB flat. It has already been proven mathematically and in real life that people with an income of 1k really can afford a flat. Of course, the usual caveats are in place. The flat cannot possibly be a five-room flat in Bishan with a high floor and a sea view. The flat will most likely be a new 2-room flat in the newer areas (Punggol, Sengkang, right?) after subsidies and financial aid, etc. So what's the problem with this issue?Carnagejane:
I am just sickened by the recent news about the efforts to bond Singaporeans in view of the upcoming ndp 2012. Seriously, what exactly is there to LOVE about our little island? Here are some reasons:
1. Very COMPETENT ministers, think mr \" train breakdowns are unavoidable＂ transport czar. Or \" Singaporeans can indeed buy a hdb flat with a 1k income\" statement from well you know who.
For me, I don't hate anything in Singapore, but I am saddened that:
1) People seem to be in a state of constant discontent. We seem to have forgotten to count our blessings and have a knack for looking at everything negatively.
2) We can't agree to disagree politely and civilly. As long as we have different views about politics, religion, etc, that is reason enough to start mini wars online. Too many people make ugly and insulting comments online simply because the anonymity allows them to do so. A very unpleasant trend.
3) Too many people seem to be spolit and self-centred. It's all about them. Parents pamper and are over-protective of children. This leads to a generation that has a strong sense of entitlement and not enough drive.
4) We don't seem to want to take responsibility for our own actions. A lot of times, we at least have some form of control and choice over how we want to live our lives. We can choose to buy a car or take public transport. We can choose to have one parent stay home or for both to work. (I know this is entirely possible even for those from low-income families. I know several in my estate where the mum stays home even if Dad is not drawing a high salary.) We seem to want to blame someone else that our lives are not exactly the way we want them to be.
Can we acknowledge all that is wrong with our society without getting too caught up in the negativity, please? Let's try to make our world a little better in our own ways, if we think that life in Singapore is that stinky.
What I have done:
- given free/subsidised tuition to children from low-income families
-donated regularly to specific charities
- raised my children to not be ill-mannered cretins
- been a nice enough neighbour who tries to be considerate
- speak out against animal abuse when I see it
Yup, it's a list filled with itsy-bitsy things, but it's at least something...
(Ok, I'm bracing myself with my eyes closed. Let the flames come!!!!)
I agree with EVERY single point you have highlighted :hi5: -
hokkiengirl:
kudos to u for doing ur part.
What I have done:
- given free/subsidised tuition to children from low-income families
-donated regularly to specific charities
- raised my children to not be ill-mannered cretins
- been a nice enough neighbour who tries to be considerate
- speak out against animal abuse when I see it
Yup, it's a list filled with itsy-bitsy things, but it's at least something...
(Ok, I'm bracing myself with my eyes closed. Let the flames come!!!!)
However small u may deem it, it may no small gesture for those who r fortunate to receive ur kindness.
I, in particular like wat u r doing in item 1 n 4.
ur flame shd be stoked, not doused.
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I agree with Hokkiengirl and becontented. When I saw the thread, I urm... Have nothing to say. I have my gripes but I always feel happy that I live in sg.
Maybe I am naive. Maybe I am too blessed. Maybe I am just too thick but I don't really know how am I affected by elitism? As for my child, I only hope he be above average in terms of academic achievement. I don't want and don't need him to be among the elites. I have always been a mediocre but I think being at the top is lonely. Because of this belief, I hope my child is among the mass and be accepted as part of the mass (I.e. I don't want my child to be an outcast, either side of the spectrum).
Maybe I can take inspiration from becontented's I'd and renamed myself as \"amcontented\"
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