different punishment for similar offence - why?

[Suriah123]

Govt still need to defend why only minor fine!! Stupid

[Imami]

Way2GO:

verykiasu2010:

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u can hv Woof1, Woof2, Woof3 ...... ad infinitum :siam:

typo lah ..... should be wolf1, wolf2, wolf3, etc etc

no typo lah bro
I don't know if he is a wolf
but I meant Woof, Woof, as in sound make by canines :siam:[/quote] :rotflmao:

[Strparent]

Imami:

Way2GO:

but I meant Woof, Woof, as in sound make by canines :siam:

:rotflmao:

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reasons explained....... :skeptical:

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http://temasektimes.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/outcry-over-law-ministers-clarification-that-a-fine-is-the-norm-in-woffles-wus-case/

[zadrian]

zadrian:

I think the punishment was also for their crimes on top of their \"take rap\" charges.


One man was speeding - $150 fine + 6 points.

Other man was for running Illegal Internet Gambling + hurting Police officer.

How was this similar offences ?
Do you think if u were taking a walk then bash up a Neighbourhood Police Post police officer, the TP will fine u and give u demerit points ?

http://andrewlohhp.wordpress.com/2012/06/14/a-slap-on-the-wrist-or-a-slap-on-the-face-of-our-justice-system/

With apologies.....I read from the blog, failed to notice that there were mention of 3 cases, this thread is only about case 1 & 2....

Anyway, as someone pointed out....one was speeding at 95KPH, the other was beating red lights

[Way2GO]

Strparent:

reasons explained....... :skeptical:

Dat's not wat WW said earlier.
Please read here, contradiction highlighted.
http://singaporedesk.blogspot.sg/2012/06/minister-and-surgeon.html

越描越黑!

When one receives a police summon for traffic offence in d mail,
isn't it d normal standard procedure for d TP to mail d summons to registered owner of car
to inform him/her of d offence n also for owner to provide details of driver if not himself/herself?
Can someone cfm dis?

Incidentally, d Law Minister's ex has just released a book entitled
\"Authoritarian Rule of Law\".
Brief fr Cambridge University Press (underline mine)-
\"Scholars have generally assumed that authoritarianism and rule of law are mutually incompatible. Convinced that free markets and rule of law must tip authoritarian societies in a liberal direction, nearly all studies of law and contemporary politics have neglected that improbable coupling: authoritarian rule of law. Through a focus on Singapore, this book presents an analysis of authoritarian legalism. It shows how prosperity, public discourse, and a rigorous observance of legal procedure have enabled a reconfigured rule of law such that liberal form encases illiberal content. Institutions and process at the bedrock of rule of law and liberal democracy become tools to constrain dissent while augmenting discretionary political power – even as the national and international legitimacy of the state is secured. This book offers a valuable and original contribution to understanding the complexities of law, language and legitimacy in our time.

[hquek]

experienced before so can confirm. if one is caught speeding etc and the summons is mailed, it will be sent to the car owner. Car owner then must fill in who is the person behind the wheel at time of offence.

[AC_Power]

Way2GO:

Angelight:

Unlikely...he was charged in 2006 right? But only sentenced to a fine this year.

IIRC, he was charged last year but only recently sentenced.
d first traffic offence occurred in 2005, second in 2006;
a lapse of six years fr time of first offence committed to being charged in 2011.

d SPF has some explanation to do.

The traffic offences took place in 2005 and 2006 and someone took the rap for him. It was not uncovered only until last year I believe.

SPF need not explain anything I feel. The judge however, need to explain his sentencing. This is outrageous.

How can two person committing the same offence be sentenced so differently? The judge needs to be sacked for making a mockery out of our judiciary system, which is famed to be fair and just.

[AC_Power]

Good article from Choo Zheng Xi of TOC, who listed down all similar cases whereby Sec 182 of the Penal Code has been preferred and all guilty persons sentenced to jail.


Why in this case, Sec 182 PC is not preferred on Woffles but Sec 81(3) of RTA? Is a different charged used so that he can be let off the hook?

http://theonlinecitizen.com/2012/06/questions-remain-in-woffles-wu-matter/

[Way2GO]

hquek:

experienced before so can confirm. if one is caught speeding etc and the summons is mailed, it will be sent to the car owner. Car owner then must fill in who is the person behind the wheel at time of offence.

Thx for d cfm.

[Way2GO]

AC_Power:

The traffic offences took place in 2005 and 2006 and someone took the rap for him. It was not uncovered only until last year I believe.

SPF need not explain anything I feel. The judge however, need to explain his sentencing. This is outrageous.

How can two person committing the same offence be sentenced so differently? The judge needs to be sacked for making a mockery out of our judiciary system, which is famed to be fair and just.

Gud historical evidence fr TOC article u referred to in support of his argument.

Those cases will also, in all probability, showed dat a six yrs lapse between time of offence n sentencing is not d norm. I wld say d six yrs lapse is highly unusual.
Dis case wld hv continued to be conveniently buried if someone who knew about it didn't pursue it with d police.
Something smells. d SPF has to explain dis.