City Harvest's founder Kong Hee & 4 others arrested/charged
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Way2GO:
Yes, it is a tragedy when the words and quotes from the Bible are misquoted and twisted by preachers to suppress people's common sense and conscience.
I just change some of d characters, location n setting n some wording too fit into d context here.concern2:
:rotflmao: Thanks for the laugh! So what's for dinner - I mean, what there to be learnt from the joke, and what have you modified?
d gist remains.
d lesson?
It strikes me how d same words, same gestures cld be interpreted in so many different ways;
many a times ppl get so weighed down with words, quotes fr d Bible dat they risk missing d mark.
I finally got around to hear that podcast from fightingforfaith website. I really...did not know what to say. Kong Hee had always been pro-prosperity ever since CHC was in Hollywood Theatre and although I did not agree with him, he was not that extreme, but that sermon at C3 church was...blasphemy. I could not find nicer words to describe it. -
pinky:
there's a Chinese saying: ji zhu chang le meaning be contented and you will be happy always. :rahrah:
Agreed, can also say εΏ«δΉε¦ε€©ε .
So, why wait till after death? It's beyond our control.
I prefer to be more concerned with the present. -
tankee:
The goal of Christianity is entirely different.sankan:
Lets not take this conversation to discussing religion. Each religion has its own ways and it all has the same motive - to make u a better person....
:goodpost:
Believing in Christ is not about making a person better, although it includes that. Otherwise Jesus can easily teach us to be good without the absolute necessity of dying on the cross.
It's first and foremost about making a dead person alive.
Dead in God's eyes \"for the wages of sin is death, but the (free!) gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Romans 6:23)
When you were dead in your sins..., God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, (Colossians 2:13-14)
But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions βit is by grace you have been saved. (Ephesians 2:4-5) -
CMF:
http://zarethwritesat.wordpress.com/2012/07/01/part-1-of-religion-donation-and-alleged-corruption-the-cultural-mandate/
Thx for sharing.
I like d aphorism: The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
To which may I add:
d road to heaven r fraught with obstacles n is a constant struggle.
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No Kidding:
KH will defend himself in court first. Many City Harvest supporters rally behind him, hire the best lawyer in town to defend him. Or perhaps in their existing CHS congregation, already got many lawyers.I've been hearing so much about the Crossover Project.
Perhaps the most effective one is still in the offing, when Kong Hee crosses over from the pulpit to prison. -
Dreamaurora:
please dream, not another TPL moment!
Yes, it is a tragedy when the words and quotes from the Bible are misquoted and twisted by preachers to suppress people's common sense and conscience.
I finally got around to hear that podcast from fightingforfaith website. I really...did not know what to say. Kong Hee had always been pro-prosperity ever since CHC was in Hollywood Theatre and although I did not agree with him, he was not that extreme, but that sermon at C3 church was...blasphemy. I could not find nicer words to describe it.
How abt Kong Hee Fatt Choy! :evil: -
Way2GO:
you mean Rin Tin Tin :stompfeet: ....... :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
please dream, not another TPL moment!Dreamaurora:
I really...did not know what to say.
How abt Kong Hee Fatt Choy! :evil:
my favourite KS in US :heresmyfish: -
No Kidding:
Did Kong Hee really say that God apologized to him? [/quote]God apologized to Kong Hee ? Now I've heard it all..... :nunchuk:
Really must listen to this as well.kwcllf:
[quote=\"empressplace\"]The following podcast from the same website shows how KH himself views the 6 months of investigations in 2010.
http://www.fightingforthefaith.com/2012/06/ed-youngs-calvinist-melt-down.html
Listen from 16.00 to 23.00.
KH said the voice of the tender loving Father has spoken to him and apologising to him that he must go through his ordeal. He also said God even thanked him and want him \"to be the man and ministry\"......blah, blah, blah...... -
zakashi:
For your information, do you know that she had already crossed over. Just last month in June or May 2012, CHC celebrated its 10th anniversary for the Sun Crossover project.verykiasu2010:
[quote=\"zakashi\"]Annabel Soh's looks and singing are many times better than Sun Ho. Do you know why Annabel is not given a chance to go to Hollywood for the crossover project?
she hasn't crossed over mah ........ also may be because she is ah Soh ...
all puns intended ...... joking joking
That is why I said why they did not get Annable to crossover instead of that auntie or ah Soh as you said.[/quote]Sun was over the moon when she was exalted highly. Now that she's been brought down to earth, she'll see stars.
I think the folks at CHC are too much into Sun-worship and too little immersed in SON-worship.
That's the crux of the problem.
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