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    Q&A - P5 Math

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      tianzhu
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      whywhy:
      Hi Tianzhu, i need a simple method to do this St nick SA1 Q13.

      Song Ren had a total of 50 coins. The coins were in denominations of 50ct, 20ct, & 5ct. He had an equal number of 50ct coins as 20ct coins. The total value of the 20ct coins & 5ct coins was $4.10. How many coins of each denomination did Song Ren have?
      Hi

      Good morning.

      The total value of the 20ct coins & 5ct coins was $4.10.

      $4 + 10 cents
      $3.80 + 30 cents

      Even value comes from the 20 cents coins and the odd amount from the 5 cents coins.

      You may present your solution in a tabulated list similar to GC or “Assumption Method”. Try to establish a pattern.Here are some pointers.

      $4 + 10 cents ------- 20 (20 cents coin) + 2 (5 cents coin) --------- 42 (20+20+2)

      $3.80 + 30 cents ------- 19 (20 cents coin) + 6 (5 cents coin) --------- 44 (19+19+6)

      Every increase of 20 cents (10 cents to 30 cents) leads to an increase of 2 coins (44-42)

      50 - 42 ----- 8

      8/2 ------ 4

      Hence, we need 4 steps of an increase of 20 cents.

      This gives 90 cents which is 18 number of 5 cents coin.

      $3.20 + 90 cents ------ 16 (20 cents coin) + 18 (5 cents coin) --------- 50 (16+16+18)

      5 cents ----- 18
      20 cents ----- 16
      50 cents ----- 16

      Best wishes

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        cimman
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        whywhy:
        Hi Tianzhu, i need a simple method to do this St nick SA1 Q13.

        Song Ren had a total of 50 coins. The coins were in denominations of 50ct, 20ct, & 5ct. He had an equal number of 50ct coins as 20ct coins. The total value of the 20ct coins & 5ct coins was $4.10. How many coins of each denomination did Song Ren have?
        this is one of those problem sums where algebra provides a simple solution.
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          sherlynDD
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          Can anyone help to solve? Thanks!

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            tianzhu
            last edited by

            sherlynDD:
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            Can anyone help to solve? Thanks!
            Hi

            Where is this question from?

            Slide triangle ABC until AT meets DV (no more overlapping)

            Area of shaded area ------ 8*6 – (1/2*6*1.5) ------- 43.5

            Another way

            6*5 ------ 30

            ½*6*3 ------ 9

            ½*3*3 ------ 4.5

            Total ------- 43.5

            Best wishes

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              sherlynDD
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              tianzhu:
              sherlynDD:

              http://i47.tinypic.com/w05fzo.jpg\">


              Can anyone help to solve? Thanks!

              Hi

              Where is this question from?

              Slide triangle ABC until AT meets DV (no more overlapping)

              Area of shaded area ------ 8*6 – (1/2*6*1.5) ------- 43.5

              Another way

              6*5 ------ 30

              ½*6*3 ------ 9

              ½*3*3 ------ 4.5

              Total ------- 43.5

              Best wishes

              Hi tianzhu,

              Thank you! This qn is from Nangyang CA2 2011.
              The slide method is quite cool, but not easy to find out immediately.
              The second way, I can not see how 6*5 come from. Thanks.

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                tianzhu
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                sherlynDD:

                Best wishes
                Hi tianzhu,

                Thank you! This qn is from Nangyang CA2 2011.
                The slide method is quite cool, but not easy to find out immediately.
                The second way, I can not see how 6*5 come from. Thanks.[/quote]
                Hi

                You're welcome.

                This is not an easy question for P5 kids.

                8 - 3 ----- 5

                From point S, extend a horizontal line to meet line DV, you'll see a rectangle of 6*5

                Best wishes

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                  whywhy
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                  Thanks to Tianzhu. thanks to Cimman for the contribution. Is your algebra method taught in sch n acceptable by psle marker?

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                    despmom99
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                    whywhy:
                    Thanks to Tianzhu. thanks to Cimman for the contribution. Is your algebra method taught in sch n acceptable by psle marker?

                    Hi, whywhy

                    My child's tutor who is an ex-Math HOD is using this table method too. My child was revising the concept taught the other day. Think she gave a name to the concept. I check and let you know. I was quite concerned if this method was acceptable by psle marker and asked the tutor. She said yes. She was supervisor of some sort during the psle marking so I trust her.

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                      YumYum
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                      Hi, can anyone pls help with this Qn:


                      1. A seamstress had some white and black buttons. 60% of the buttons were white. She bought an additional 120 buttons. Now the percentage of white buttons became 40% of the total. How many white buttons did he have at first?


                      2. The ratio of the number of ten cent to twenty cent stamps in an album was 3:4. 50 ten-cent stamps were taken out, exchanged for twenty cent stamps of the same value and put back into the album. The ratio became 1:5. Find the total value of all the stamps in the album at first.

                      thanks

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                        tianzhu
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                        YumYum:
                        Hi, can anyone pls help with this Qn:


                        1. A seamstress had some white and black buttons. 60% of the buttons were white. She bought an additional 120 buttons. Now the percentage of white buttons became 40% of the total. How many white buttons did he have at first?
                        Hi

                        Q1 has been discussed before.

                        Please refer to page 209 of this thread.

                        http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=280&start=2080

                        Best wishes

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