[Novena] Primary Schools

[Ninja Turtle]

Great smps more than 2km guaranteed in then from the looks of it. Thank god.

[P1 mummy]

Just to clarify for those who are getting lost among the trees. Very simple. I have no issue with genuine residents in the area competing for a place in whichever school they try to get their kids into. I have no god given right - but I do have more of a right (legally) than some. In summary:


1. Own and live in a property less than 1km for many years - no issue
2. Recently bought or rented a property less than 1km AND actually live there - no issue

3. Bought or rented a place for P1 registration BUT still living elsewhere within Singapore - illegal and considered cheating
4. Using a parents/relatives/friends address for P1 registration without filling out a statutory declaration as you will only be considered as a 1-2km applicant - illegal and considered cheating.

I shall pursue those in categories 3 & 4 as cheats. It will take a few weeks and will almost definitely occur after balloting - but they will get caught eventually. No doubt. Question rightly or wrongly that how is is this possible. But don’t be so naive to think it’s okay to cheat and get away with it.

Why do people have a problem in outing those who clearly cheat. This is part of the problem as to why foreigners prosper over us singaporeans - they act decisively when needed. When we do it - people pray for our downfall. Wake up!

My words may be strong but my actions are far stronger!

[magic8ball]

becknat68:

updates as at 11am :


SCGS : 29 seats, 46 SC within 1KM
RGPS : 42 seats, 48 SC , 37 within 1KM, 2 1-2KM, 9 outside 2KM
SMPS : 101 seats, 87 SCs, no breakdown of distance available

SMPS: 87 SCs, of which 43 outside 2km.

Let's look at the bigger picture. We just want our girls to get into school. At this rate, the will be more disappointed families if people don't withdraw from scgs and switch to smps. If things stay status quo, there will be 17 disappointments (46-29). If parents realize this, some should actually switch to smps so the number of disappointments are minimized. 14 seats left at smps, if 15 switch to smps, it would force a ballot at smps for those outside of 2km, chances would be 101-(87-43)=57 spaces for of 58 (43+15) applicants. for scgs, it would be 29 of 31. Disappontments -maximum 3, and possibly only two as all who switch could get seats.

But as it stands, 17 will definitely be disappointed at scgs.

Look at the big picture.

[mummy of 3]

Just that ur gal dun get into SCGS. Then we can see the actions u r going to take and make it into the headlines of the news paper for the parents that always wanted to know. :censored:


:siam:

[becknat68]

I guess the last session of 2.30-4.30 would be crucial and i think there were some withdrawals at SCGS this morning although the staff was reluctant to say much.

In any case, All the best to everyone and God bless. We have done so much and come so far and we all deserve a pat on our shoulder!! ^^ pat pat^^

[Ninja Turtle]

magic8ball:

becknat68:

updates as at 11am :


SCGS : 29 seats, 46 SC within 1KM
RGPS : 42 seats, 48 SC , 37 within 1KM, 2 1-2KM, 9 outside 2KM
SMPS : 101 seats, 87 SCs, no breakdown of distance available

SMPS: 87 SCs, of which 43 outside 2km.

Let's look at the bigger picture. We just want our girls to get into school. At this rate, the will be more disappointed families if people don't withdraw from scgs and switch to smps. If things stay status quo, there will be 17 disappointments (46-29). If parents realize this, some should actually switch to smps so the number of disappointments are minimized. 14 seats left at smps, if 15 switch to smps, it would force a ballot at smps for those outside of 2km, chances would be 101-(87-43)=57 spaces for of 58 (43+15) applicants. for scgs, it would be 29 of 31. Disappontments -maximum 3, and possibly only two as all who switch could get seats.

But as it stands, 17 will definitely be disappointed at scgs.
Look at the big picture.

Magicball have you already withdraw from scgs? Or are you like me didn't even bother taking the huge risk after seeing the freakish numbers? I registered directly at smps despite being less than 1km. From scgs and more than 2km from smp

[Scary]

P1 mummy:

Just to clarify for those who are getting lost among the trees. Very simple. I have no issue with genuine residents in the area competing for a place in whichever school they try to get their kids into. I have no god given right - but I do have more of a right (legally) than some. In summary:


1. Own and live in a property less than 1km for many years - no issue
2. Recently bought or rented a property less than 1km AND actually live there - no issue

3. Bought or rented a place for P1 registration BUT still living elsewhere within Singapore - illegal and considered cheating
4. Using a parents/relatives/friends address for P1 registration without filling out a statutory declaration as you will only be considered as a 1-2km applicant - illegal and considered cheating.

I shall pursue those in categories 3 & 4 as cheats. It will take a few weeks and will almost definitely occur after balloting - but they will get caught eventually. No doubt. Question rightly or wrongly that how is is this possible. But don't be so naive to think it's okay to cheat and get away with it.

Why do people have a problem in outing those who clearly cheat. This is part of the problem as to why foreigners prosper over us singaporeans - they act decisively when needed. When we do it - people pray for our downfall. Wake up!

My words may be strong but my actions are far stronger!

Your pt 3. Assuming someone has a few properties. All are pretty close to one another. However, only 1 is near to a good school and the family doesn't stay there. Instead, that place is a storage hub for the family. Is this consider a cheat? If you are in the same shoe owning a few properties, I believe you will also use the address that is nearest to a good school.

[Saki]

magic8ball:

becknat68:

updates as at 11am :


SCGS : 29 seats, 46 SC within 1KM
RGPS : 42 seats, 48 SC , 37 within 1KM, 2 1-2KM, 9 outside 2KM
SMPS : 101 seats, 87 SCs, no breakdown of distance available

SMPS: 87 SCs, of which 43 outside 2km.

Let's look at the bigger picture. We just want our girls to get into school. At this rate, the will be more disappointed families if people don't withdraw from scgs and switch to smps. If things stay status quo, there will be 17 disappointments (46-29). If parents realize this, some should actually switch to smps so the number of disappointments are minimized. 14 seats left at smps, if 15 switch to smps, it would force a ballot at smps for those outside of 2km, chances would be 101-(87-43)=57 spaces for of 58 (43+15) applicants. for scgs, it would be 29 of 31. Disappontments -maximum 3, and possibly only two as all who switch could get seats.

But as it stands, 17 will definitely be disappointed at scgs.

Look at the big picture.

good analysis, but I think those who like to take risk is not at all an issue sine for every 3 child 2 will be getting in (3:2) the ratio is quite fine

[magic8ball]

Saki:

magic8ball:

[quote=\"becknat68\"]updates as at 11am :


SCGS : 29 seats, 46 SC within 1KM
RGPS : 42 seats, 48 SC , 37 within 1KM, 2 1-2KM, 9 outside 2KM
SMPS : 101 seats, 87 SCs, no breakdown of distance available

SMPS: 87 SCs, of which 43 outside 2km.

Let's look at the bigger picture. We just want our girls to get into school. At this rate, the will be more disappointed families if people don't withdraw from scgs and switch to smps. If things stay status quo, there will be 17 disappointments (46-29). If parents realize this, some should actually switch to smps so the number of disappointments are minimized. 14 seats left at smps, if 15 switch to smps, it would force a ballot at smps for those outside of 2km, chances would be 101-(87-43)=57 spaces for of 58 (43+15) applicants. for scgs, it would be 29 of 31. Disappontments -maximum 3, and possibly only two as all who switch could get seats.

But as it stands, 17 will definitely be disappointed at scgs.

Look at the big picture.

good analysis, but I think those who like to take risk is not at all an issue sine for every 3 child 2 will be getting in (3:2) the ratio is quite fine[/quote]But what happens to those who are disappointed? Bhps? The downside can be quite large and overall would be worse off. that's the economics speaking.

[happydaddy]

Scary:

P1 mummy:

Just to clarify for those who are getting lost among the trees. Very simple. I have no issue with genuine residents in the area competing for a place in whichever school they try to get their kids into. I have no god given right - but I do have more of a right (legally) than some. In summary:


1. Own and live in a property less than 1km for many years - no issue
2. Recently bought or rented a property less than 1km AND actually live there - no issue

3. Bought or rented a place for P1 registration BUT still living elsewhere within Singapore - illegal and considered cheating
4. Using a parents/relatives/friends address for P1 registration without filling out a statutory declaration as you will only be considered as a 1-2km applicant - illegal and considered cheating.

I shall pursue those in categories 3 & 4 as cheats. It will take a few weeks and will almost definitely occur after balloting - but they will get caught eventually. No doubt. Question rightly or wrongly that how is is this possible. But don't be so naive to think it's okay to cheat and get away with it.

Why do people have a problem in outing those who clearly cheat. This is part of the problem as to why foreigners prosper over us singaporeans - they act decisively when needed. When we do it - people pray for our downfall. Wake up!

My words may be strong but my actions are far stronger!

Your pt 3. Assuming someone has a few properties. All are pretty close to one another. However, only 1 is near to a good school and the family doesn't stay there. Instead, that place is a storage hub for the family. Is this consider a cheat? If you are in the same shoe owning a few properties, I believe you will also use the address that is nearest to a good school.

Your pt 3, there is nothing the government can do. They can purchase the property, stayed there till the registration is over, then move out or vacant it or rent out. At the point of registration, it is consider legal and there is nothing you can do. You have no case against them.

Your pt 4, again there is nothing the government can do. Nowaday, the property is so high, how you expect the young family to own a property. They have no choice but to stay with their parents/friends/relative. You have no legal stand against them.

All your points are not classified cheating. If you do not has the permission to use the address, it is consider cheating.

You are just wasting $$ engaging lawyer to fight an impossible battle.

I would suggest, find way to join the school committee. Get in by phase 2A. Don't just complain here.