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    chs openly solicits teachers' day presents from parents

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    • D Offline
      Daddy D
      last edited by

      ksi:

      Maybe my brain is malfunctioning today....kekeke
      I do not understand your point in red. Care to elaborate?
      Also, I cannot see the similarity in your service providers example because parents and service providers are not similar to me. :?
      You got read this?
      http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/singapore/story/teachers-allied-educators-get-early-pay-rise-sept-1-20120831

      Means... only MOE can give \"presents\" to teachers (civil servants)...
      Oh... And little children too... Cos' they dunno the rules... 😆

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        iFirefly
        last edited by

        When my DS1 joined CHS in P4 3 years ago, I too received such letter… Initially, i was surprised too, but upon discussing with DH, we finally chose NOT to give as we didn’t feel comfortable doing so… Subsequently, we continued to receive such letters every year, and I simply filed/threw them away…


        Though my DS1 has left CHS this year, my DS2 is still there… Yes, I received the letter last week (nope, it was NOT withdrawn), and I did the same thing as I have done so previously… No need to answer to anybody… No need to explain to anyone… No issue at all…

        As meiah mentions, it is NOT compulsory, it is just an appeal… If one wishes to give, then give (willingly)… If one does NOT wish to give, then do NOT give… Simple as that… One’s child will NOT be ‘‘victimised’’ in class/school if one chooses NOT to give…

        Really don’t understand some parents… If that parent wasn’t happy with something, he should have clarified the matter with the school (or the Principal), instead of complaining to an ‘‘outside party’’, and even forwarding the memo, which was supposed to be for internal circulation only… What kind of respect (if there was any at all) was he giving the school?!

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          looking4Tutor
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          LOLMum:
          verykiasu2010:

          That website is a great twister - twister of facts, and you guys fall for it and start slamming the school. PLEASE go read the website carefully :


          Did we slam the school? :? Don't think so.

          Tnp also reported the story.

          No, you did not but the website you pulled the account from is questionable.

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            SAHM_TAN
            last edited by

            I’m puzzled and trying to understand. I first read the news from Wan Bao, the activities organised by MC, Alumni and PSG, in general, not just CHS, is it necessary to get approval from the school’s P? Or are these groups totally independent from the school?


            Are there guidelines from MOE about teachers receiving expensive gifts from parents?

            I know for this particular event organised by MC, CHS Alumni and PSG, the gifts are collected for lucky draw and I know it’s on a volunteered basis and as shared, students are not penalised when their parents do not participate but I still feel uncomfortable about news.

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              Mychildren
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              Oh, don't know what to say. But gifts should be from the heart, even if its only a small card. Maybe some like material stuffs but its the parents who fork them out.


              My kids from neighbourhood school. Usually, we bought small little gifts from popular or book store. They chose themselves for their teachers.

              But this year, they chose to made their own gifts.One made his own cards, the other self knitted some craftworks. I just supplied boxes & crafts & cards materials.

              I was indeed impressed with what they've done, good boys! 😉

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                LOLMum
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                looking4Tutor:
                LOLMum:



                Tnp also reported the story.

                No, you did not but the website you pulled the account from is questionable.

                verykiasu2010:
                that website' credibility is getting from bad to worse by always twisting facts...other forumers also pointed out in other discussion threads how they twisted certain facts, in order to maintain some \"anti-establishment\" view, die die must try their best to slant it that way and fan the the anti-gov't die-hards


                i first saw this article in the tnp and tried to do a copy of it here but there wasnt much info on the online tnp (i pasted what i could copy from tnp here below) and the website i pulled it from has the letter from psg.

                since the school letter head wasnt displayed, i asked if it was true or otherwise.....

                as to whether the website add oil, add fire to it or not, i really can see the oil and fire to this particular article.

                the chinese evening papers and tnp also reported on this matter.


                Tour packages and digital gadgets as Teachers' Day gifts?August 31, 2012 - 11:56pm
                By:
                Benson Ang


                http://www.tnp.sg/content/tour-packages-and-digital-gadgets-teachers-day-gifts

                Tour packages, shopping vouchers, dining vouchers, home appliances and digital gadgets - that’s what the parents support group (PSG) from Catholic High School asked parents to contribute for Teachers’ Day this year.

                A copy of the letter was uploaded online, where it attracted mixed reactions from netizens.

                The school has clarified that as civil servants, teachers cannot accept gifts and favours given to them personally by students and parents.


                名校家长会办教师节庆祝会,呼吁家长捐赠礼物给老师,“索讨”的礼品括:购物礼券、餐券、电子产品,甚至旅行配套,被部分网民批评为“奢华”。

                本地一所名校的家长会最近发给家长的信件,被其中一名家长转发,在网络上引起热议。

                信件内称,该学校的管理委员会、家长会和校友会,将联办教师节庆祝会,感谢教师付出的辛劳。

                家长会在信中呼吁,想要向老师表达由衷感谢的家长们,各捐赠一份礼物,欢迎家长赠送“购物礼券、餐券、时下电子产品、家庭电器或旅行配套等礼品”。

                完整报道,请翻阅26.08.2012《联合晚报》。

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                  PhoBIA
                  last edited by

                  It’s all the doing of kpo parents.

                  A righteous and dedicated will be happy just with a parent doesn’t bother them and students who does their work properly.

                  My kids preschool had a group of PV who arranged a surprise celebration for teachers during the Sch holiday. Requesting for performance items,…etc.
                  It’s not compulsory to join, it’s a free choice.
                  This article is just a blow up of twisted facts.

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                    Daddy D
                    last edited by

                    We can see...

                    - The popular school has done this every year... Doesn't mean it is always correct.
                    - \"Outsiders\" shouldn't interfere? Win Liao lor (Law)...
                    - Some parents can choose not to give and ignore... Doesn't mean other parents cannot voice out.
                    - Just cos' the \"questionable\" website reported... Doesn't make the report less true. (mainstream media also got \"questionable\" articles lor)

                    Hope chs kids don't grow up thinking that it's the norm to have D&D cum lucky draws as teacher's day presents.

                    A case of \"over-zealous\" adults being \"over-creative\"?
                    🤷

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                      limlim
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                      verykiasu2010:

                      Quote : \"the event is organized by CHS Management Committee, CHS Alumni and the Parent Support Group (PSG).

                      The memo wrote that the PSG Exco is appealing to parents who would like to show their heartfelt gratitute to contribute a present to this event, and listed the ’proposed’ presents as ”shopping vouchers, dining vouchers, current digital gadgets or home appliance, tour packages, etc”. \"

                      Is this organised by the school ? Is the memo sent by the school ? Is it organised by the school ?
                      The CHS MC, CHS Alumni and PSG is lacking discipline.. The school failed in jurisdiction of affiliations..

                      If it is w/o endorsement by the school, then the school really need to buck up its disciplinary efforts and rein in those affiliated/related organisations.. so as not to let them give the school a bad name.

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                        Lilac66
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                        I feel the memo is alittle contradictory..on the one hand, they mentioned that those who \"wish\" can donate..on the other hand, they are blatantly proposing the items they want to have. These are not most people's typical gifts to teachers. :roll:



                        I did a double take when I saw \"current digital gadgets or home appliance, tour packages, etc”. The issue is not whether it's \"voluntary\" but that the message may be misconstrued. I'm fine if these are items under any charity's wish list which I'm more than willing to donate, but for teacher day's gifts.....


                        I thought I read an article about Hong Kong's students lavishing such gifts on teachers and the practice was frowned upon, I hope schools here are not going to slowly adopt this? But I would say, I believe this is the exception rather than the norm. When my DS told me the teachers in sch are not allowed to accept gifts of more than $X , I had thought it's set by MOE and applied across the board.



                        ps: on reading the article carefully again, could it have meant gifts for lucky draws where only a few \"lucky\" teachers would get these? :scratchhead: If so, I can accept this arrangement and contribute if I wish to. It's perfectly alright in this case, sorry if I've overlooked that.

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