PM Lee: What future do you want for Singapore?

[Way2GO]

concern2:

Can the same logic apply for a parent who doesn't want his/her child to do housework but focus on studies so as to do well in it? Isn't this part of the training and discipline? But then again, if I were to go through what you guys have gone through, I would have said \"it is right to do away with the cleaning! \"

I wld treat teaching d kids to perform household chores as a necessary life skill n military discipline as two separate issues.
With SG girls so demanding these days - only want to marry boys who hv achieve 5Cs n must help out in housework - it is a necessary pre-requisite to get hitch! :rotflmao:

Seriously though..
Yeah, instilling regimental discipline was d proffered reason for those tasks- area cleaning, stand-by bed, military drills with shining polished boots n smartly ironed uniforms. However, these tasks take away valuable training time n eats into soldiers’ sleeping time. With d reduction of time spent in NSF (it was 2 ½ years during my stint), n d high financial costs of bringing in NSmen for ICTs, it makes good sense to maximise d time for training n sub out d cleaning jobs.

[Nebbermind]

mamago:

A few years liao, at GWC Cold Storage.... payment by cards, self pack... rather convenient...

Is it easy to use? Not many choose to use those counters...or maybe they are not working.

[fightingmom]

concern2:

Nebbermind:

[quote=\"Funz\"]Time to automate. In some countries, you can go to self checkout counters. I don't know if I remember correctly but I think there was a Cold Storage outlet that has a self checkout counter.

Saw this at Cold Storage Great World City and NTUC finest @ Clementi Mall

Really?! I've never experienced auto checkout. Maybe these are the trial stores, yet to be implemented island-wide. How long have they been implemented in these stores?[/quote]The NTUC @ Bishan Junction 8 basement also have autos self check out machines. However, if u want to use your linkpoints to deduct for the grocery purchases, then have to queue @ normal counters, else very convenient.

The last time we visited the Cold Storage @ GWC - the self check out machines were all down.

[concern2]

Way2GO:

With SG girls so demanding these days - only want to marry boys who hv achieve 5Cs n must help out in housework - it is a necessary pre-requisite to get hitch! :rotflmao:

Oh, is it? I donna the market these days I thought most are used to having maids now ...hehe

[mamago]

Nebbermind:

mamago:

A few years liao, at GWC Cold Storage.... payment by cards, self pack... rather convenient...

Is it easy to use? Not many choose to use those counters...or maybe they are not working.

It's easy, but some customers bring the merchandise back n forth passing the scanner more than once, cause double scanning, then the customer serv officers have to step in to help... the ang mohs are the frequent users...

[Way2GO]

Nebbermind:

4am :yikes:

W2G, u occifer trainee har?
how come so siong!?

u didn't go thro it huh?
lucky u.
IIRC, 4 am reveille
1/2 hr of 5 BX
run to Elephant Hill or thereabouts n duck-walk on d way back - takes abt 1 hr or so.
1/2 hr area cleaning
Washing up n change
Breakfast/Draw arms
Ready for lessons/training by 7.15 am.

[mamago]

the auto checkout machines are quite \"intelligent\" too, the machine will not proceed if the customer try to \"smuggle\" any item into the plastic bag without scanning.... that's the reason it always jam n alarm siren, I guess :evil:

[Nebbermind]

no leh, I 'beng kia', no occifer!!

[Lilac66]

concern2:

Lilac66:

I believe it's also the fellow Singaporean's attitude towards such workers. It's an honest job, but these diners not only do not show appreciation when a cleaner clears the table , taking for granted that's he's paid to do the job but also these cleaners are made to feel like they are low class Singaporeans. It's really a thankless, tiring job on top of the fact that they're not adequately remunerated.

So far I've encountered more friendly attitude towards cleaners than bad. I think Singaporeans are getting more empathetic these days, esp. toward the older folks. On the contrary, I've met 2 old folks working at different food outlets with unexpected behaviors:

One was an old man who was busy cleaning a table, and customers had to wait for him to clear the table before they could use. There wasn't any central depositing counter for customers to leave the dirty dishes in, and everyone had to wait for him to make his rounds, yet, he refused to let customers deposit the dirty dishes into his bucket, and insisted that they leave them onto 'other tables' - which were all occupied.

Another case was an old lady who felt customers were \"making things difficult\" for her by asking for this and that. She even took the liberty to scold customers who changed seats like she's their grandmother At first, I felt rather annoyed by her behavior, but after imagining her to be our mother, we became extra warm, polite and considerate, and our friendliness changed her behavior too! She really became like our grandmother, taking good care of us, asking what else we needed

I've had my fair share of such encounters too. But I notice whenever I thank them, they would look pleasantly surprised . They are more willing to clear the tables properly too. Only shows how much they've been appreciated..

[Lilac66]

Nebbermind:

mamago:

A few years liao, at GWC Cold Storage.... payment by cards, self pack... rather convenient...

Is it easy to use? Not many choose to use those counters...or maybe they are not working.

Maybe if Singaporeans are more used to such self-service concepts, we'll rely less on FW. I notice that these counters are always under utilised.

Also at MRT stations, I see long queues at the counter that is manned , but not many go to the top-up machines.Why huh?