Government, what you really want us to do?

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verykiasu2010:

3Boys:

[quote=\"ksi\"]Personally I like early hours for school. I used to go to school so early(by public bus) that there was no traffic jam and I could enjoy the wonderful fresh morning air and dew every day and watch the day break beautifully. It was a fantastic way to start my day every day. These are actually simple joys of life that kids today do not know how to appreciate because parents are not keen in early hours and cascade the sentiments to the kids.

Yeah, I agree! It forces kids to sleep early too, which is no bad thing.

unfortunately many kids still stay till late / wee hours of the morning, facebooking in the name of project, groups discussion etc etc[/quote]The early school hours really are a problem for working parents. If you assume that your child wakes up at 6:30am (which is by no means early), then in order to have the recommended 10 hours of sleep for a lower primary child, he/she needs to be in asleep by 8:30pm. I leave work at exactly 6pm so I am home by 7pm; that gives me an hour & a half with my children before they go to bed. When my boys go to primary school they will be up at 6am so it will be even worse.

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ruohoo97:

Salute to FTWMs. I had come to conclusion long long ago. It is the hardest job under the sun.

Yes agree, especially for the FTWMs with little family support for logistics and education :salute:
Not forgetting the SAHM club...once capable workers, now capable stay at home mums contributing to the society in our own ways whether recognized by society or not... Don't think we bother about that haha :salute:

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Oppsgal:

Some thinks SAHMs very free...


Someone ask me I nothing much to do at home, looks very free?

The only time I nothing much to do is when I kpo here. :razz:

Other time so busy. Time flies faster than working.

I have being SAHM for only exactly 1 year.
Before I switched to FTWM, l longed/dream/wish/hope to be a SAHM. :boogie:

Now i am back to the workforce and the main reasons, other than the income, is, SAHM is tough, very tough, yes, and hardly got \"ME\" time, so please, do not pass comment that SAHM is very free. :roll:

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Oppsgal:

BeContented:

[quote=\"Oppsgal\"]
Not sure what you mean by \"unwilling to give up their lifestyle\"?

Once married lifestyle change.

After married, give birth to kids, lifestyle will change again. Have to wake up wee hours to feed baby, have to change nappies.

Married without kids - lifestyle change - yes,but unlikely to be too drastic.
Married with kids - change will be big. But with each child, more adjustment needed & logistically more & more challenging. Unless u have unlimited resources/help.

I'll just use myself as example (not sure if it's applicable)
- 2 kids. After tahaning for first few years, life has become easier - financially & physically. Also now easier to go out with hubby & leave kids alone at home for a few hours at night, plan longer trips as family, can bring my parents to short overseas trip etc
Frankly, at this point, I can have more kids.....but I am not willing to forgo current lifestyle/convenience. I dun want to go thru whole cycle of diaper, night feed etc. i want to go trips & not be home-bound etc (ok, I'm one who is rather hands-on with my own kids, I can't really let go to others). Financially, will be tighter again. I would consider all these as lifestyle changes with more kids.......no?

If no money, then how to have more kids? Nappies, milk, education all need money. Same for all the medical expenses from go hospital give birth till don't know how many years down the road. :moneyflies:[/quote]No money of course kids will be low priority.....

But have money doesn't mean people will want/have kids.....that's what I was trying to say :xedfingers:

[mummy so kiasu]

Melodies:

First, you encourage all women to work and make contribution to the society. So, women work.


Second, you want baby. Who is going to look after baby? So, FTWM have few options of either become SAHM or hire maid or get grand parents support, Infant care centre etc. So, most FTWMs have resorted to hire maid and have support from grand parents. Though it is tough to cope, some FTWMs still can manage to coach school goer at night n weekend for homework and revision if school does teach well. However, some FTWMs work long hour, some do not know how to coach, all these FTWMs have no choice but to outsource to Tuition.

Then, you said, maid need weekly off-day and also make it mandatory now. FTWMs have to manage both housework and coaching now. Some have maid problem ever since the maid goes out..

This is not enough, you said old folks need to work until 75 yo. :faint: Left FTWMs with very little supports now.

All those policies have further tightened all FTWMs' hands, legs and minds.. Just wonder how to have more babies?, how not to have tuition and how to further work with piece of mind? :slapshead:

Now HSK says don't go tuition. Don't over teach or the kids will get bore in class. PM says let the pre schoolers play & enjoy their childhood, don't teach them P1 stuff when they are K1. MOE says there is no exam in P1 & P2, but there are so many mastery tests & show & tell which need a lot of parents guidance. There is even streaming at the end of P2. Back to a square, if not worst than before. FTWM need a lot of support from family & government.

[mummy so kiasu]

FTWM need a lot of support from family & government. SAHM play the low profile supporting roles that usually over looked by the government. SAHM do not have the "ME" time & they can’t afford to buy things to pamper themselves for their hard work. They also do not have MC, bonuses & maternity leave.

[mummy so kiasu]

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ruohoo97:

Salute to FTWMs. I had come to conclusion long long ago. It is the hardest job under the sun.

Agreed.. after many members have shared that FTWM = Full Time Working MAN........ :evil:

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3Boys:

The title of this thread should really be \"People, what do you really expect the g'ment to do?\"


People expect everything to be laid out on a platter. I luurve PM's riposte during the televised session last week to the young man who said he didn't want to get married. Well, our parents had far fewer resources and safety nets, never stopped them from having hopes and dreams and daring to try right?

I expect the g'ment to:

(1) Not regard SAHMs as not doing anything economically productive. Bringing up the next generation of citizens is economically productive.

(2) Measure HDB affordability by reference to a household with only ONE income earner. Having both parents work to provide income should be a matter of choice, not necessity. Outsourcing childcare to third parties (and that includes grandparents) should be a matter of choice, not necessity.

Is that too much to ask? After the g'ment do this, they can then start lecturing the people for not doing this, that or the other compared to our parents and grandparents. :razz: Until then, the g'ment is not qualified to. :wrongmove:

[3Boys]

pirate:

3Boys:

The title of this thread should really be \"People, what do you really expect the g'ment to do?\"


People expect everything to be laid out on a platter. I luurve PM's riposte during the televised session last week to the young man who said he didn't want to get married. Well, our parents had far fewer resources and safety nets, never stopped them from having hopes and dreams and daring to try right?

I expect the g'ment to:

(1) Not regard SAHMs as not doing anything economically productive. Bringing up the next generation of citizens is economically productive.

(2) Measure HDB affordability by reference to a household with only ONE income earner. Having both parents work to provide income should be a matter of choice, not necessity. Outsourcing childcare to third parties (and that includes grandparents) should be a matter of choice, not necessity.

Is that too much to ask? After the g'ment do this, they can then start lecturing the people for not doing this, that or the other compared to our parents and grandparents. :razz: Until then, the g'ment is not qualified to. :wrongmove:

Well, those are but two of many many other issues, and they are your point of view. I don't see that the g'ment needs to do any of those things before they start lecturing people.