Government, what you really want us to do?

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Oppsgal:

Some thinks SAHMs very free...


Someone ask me I nothing much to do at home, looks very free?

The only time I nothing much to do is when I kpo here. :razz:

Other time so busy. Time flies faster than working.

I have being SAHM for only exactly 1 year.
Before I switched to FTWM, l longed/dream/wish/hope to be a SAHM. :boogie:

Now i am back to the workforce and the main reasons, other than the income, is, SAHM is tough, very tough, yes, and hardly got \"ME\" time, so please, do not pass comment that SAHM is very free. :roll:

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Oppsgal:

BeContented:

[quote=\"Oppsgal\"]
Not sure what you mean by \"unwilling to give up their lifestyle\"?

Once married lifestyle change.

After married, give birth to kids, lifestyle will change again. Have to wake up wee hours to feed baby, have to change nappies.

Married without kids - lifestyle change - yes,but unlikely to be too drastic.
Married with kids - change will be big. But with each child, more adjustment needed & logistically more & more challenging. Unless u have unlimited resources/help.

I'll just use myself as example (not sure if it's applicable)
- 2 kids. After tahaning for first few years, life has become easier - financially & physically. Also now easier to go out with hubby & leave kids alone at home for a few hours at night, plan longer trips as family, can bring my parents to short overseas trip etc
Frankly, at this point, I can have more kids.....but I am not willing to forgo current lifestyle/convenience. I dun want to go thru whole cycle of diaper, night feed etc. i want to go trips & not be home-bound etc (ok, I'm one who is rather hands-on with my own kids, I can't really let go to others). Financially, will be tighter again. I would consider all these as lifestyle changes with more kids.......no?

If no money, then how to have more kids? Nappies, milk, education all need money. Same for all the medical expenses from go hospital give birth till don't know how many years down the road. :moneyflies:[/quote]No money of course kids will be low priority.....

But have money doesn't mean people will want/have kids.....that's what I was trying to say :xedfingers:

[mummy so kiasu]

Melodies:

First, you encourage all women to work and make contribution to the society. So, women work.


Second, you want baby. Who is going to look after baby? So, FTWM have few options of either become SAHM or hire maid or get grand parents support, Infant care centre etc. So, most FTWMs have resorted to hire maid and have support from grand parents. Though it is tough to cope, some FTWMs still can manage to coach school goer at night n weekend for homework and revision if school does teach well. However, some FTWMs work long hour, some do not know how to coach, all these FTWMs have no choice but to outsource to Tuition.

Then, you said, maid need weekly off-day and also make it mandatory now. FTWMs have to manage both housework and coaching now. Some have maid problem ever since the maid goes out..

This is not enough, you said old folks need to work until 75 yo. :faint: Left FTWMs with very little supports now.

All those policies have further tightened all FTWMs' hands, legs and minds.. Just wonder how to have more babies?, how not to have tuition and how to further work with piece of mind? :slapshead:

Now HSK says don't go tuition. Don't over teach or the kids will get bore in class. PM says let the pre schoolers play & enjoy their childhood, don't teach them P1 stuff when they are K1. MOE says there is no exam in P1 & P2, but there are so many mastery tests & show & tell which need a lot of parents guidance. There is even streaming at the end of P2. Back to a square, if not worst than before. FTWM need a lot of support from family & government.

[mummy so kiasu]

FTWM need a lot of support from family & government. SAHM play the low profile supporting roles that usually over looked by the government. SAHM do not have the "ME" time & they can’t afford to buy things to pamper themselves for their hard work. They also do not have MC, bonuses & maternity leave.

[mummy so kiasu]

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ruohoo97:

Salute to FTWMs. I had come to conclusion long long ago. It is the hardest job under the sun.

Agreed.. after many members have shared that FTWM = Full Time Working MAN........ :evil:

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3Boys:

The title of this thread should really be \"People, what do you really expect the g'ment to do?\"


People expect everything to be laid out on a platter. I luurve PM's riposte during the televised session last week to the young man who said he didn't want to get married. Well, our parents had far fewer resources and safety nets, never stopped them from having hopes and dreams and daring to try right?

I expect the g'ment to:

(1) Not regard SAHMs as not doing anything economically productive. Bringing up the next generation of citizens is economically productive.

(2) Measure HDB affordability by reference to a household with only ONE income earner. Having both parents work to provide income should be a matter of choice, not necessity. Outsourcing childcare to third parties (and that includes grandparents) should be a matter of choice, not necessity.

Is that too much to ask? After the g'ment do this, they can then start lecturing the people for not doing this, that or the other compared to our parents and grandparents. :razz: Until then, the g'ment is not qualified to. :wrongmove:

[3Boys]

pirate:

3Boys:

The title of this thread should really be \"People, what do you really expect the g'ment to do?\"


People expect everything to be laid out on a platter. I luurve PM's riposte during the televised session last week to the young man who said he didn't want to get married. Well, our parents had far fewer resources and safety nets, never stopped them from having hopes and dreams and daring to try right?

I expect the g'ment to:

(1) Not regard SAHMs as not doing anything economically productive. Bringing up the next generation of citizens is economically productive.

(2) Measure HDB affordability by reference to a household with only ONE income earner. Having both parents work to provide income should be a matter of choice, not necessity. Outsourcing childcare to third parties (and that includes grandparents) should be a matter of choice, not necessity.

Is that too much to ask? After the g'ment do this, they can then start lecturing the people for not doing this, that or the other compared to our parents and grandparents. :razz: Until then, the g'ment is not qualified to. :wrongmove:

Well, those are but two of many many other issues, and they are your point of view. I don't see that the g'ment needs to do any of those things before they start lecturing people.

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Of course, they are my views. It is also my view that I can lecture the g'ment for what I perceive to be their passing the buck in this area of policy. And since what the g'ment has done so far has, by their own admission, not exactly worked, maybe they should do less lecturing and more listening. :wrongmove:


I lurve this alligator! :wrongmove:

[3Boys]

Something quite technical but worth a read --> http://www.economist.com/node/21561112


I don't actually think anything the g'ment suggests that requires even a modicum of effort on the part of the people would work. What constitutes passing the buck? Working hard and making some sacrifices too difficult for the modern family? The g'ment need to coddle at every step?