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    • MathIzzzFunM Offline
      MathIzzzFun
      last edited by

      24hr-mum:
      qms:

      thanks.

      re this gopal question, the model answer states like this:

      $210 divide by ($5+$2) = 30
      so each pair of 2u is 15, and each u becomes 7.5
      why is this way wrong?

      What is the answer given by the model answer? How much did he spend?

      the model ans was 570 but the method was 210/7 whc was wrong

      You need to understand what does 210/7 represent --> this will give the number of $2 left which is 1/3 the original number of $2 notes.

      Let's take a look at the question again:
      the number of $5 notes that gopal has is 1/3 the number of $2 notes. the number of $10 notes is 1/2 the number of $2 notes. after spending all the $10 notes and 2/3 of the $2 notes, gopal had $210 left. How much did she spend altogether?

      Gopal is left with $210.
      Spent --> ALL $10 notes, 2/3 of $2 notes
      Left --> ALL $5 notes, 1/3 of $2 notes

      Given: the number of $5 notes is equal to 1/3 of $2 notes.
      So the number of $5 notes left is equal to the number of $2 left.

      Consider 1 x $5 note and 1 x $2 note --> total $7
      $210 (total left) / $7 = 30 --> 30 groups of (1 x $5 note and 1 x $2 note)
      ie 30 x $2 notes left --> this is 1/3 of the total number of $2 left
      Therefore, total number of $2 notes at first --> 30 x 3 = 90
      Total spent = $10 x 90/2 + 2 x 30 x $2 = $570


      cheers.

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        pensiveowl
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        Hi, could someone pls help with this question:


        May had 48 stalks of flowers in a basket. 1/3​ of them were roses and the rest were lilies and daisies. There were 4 more lilies than daisies. How many daisies should May buy such that the number of daisies would be 1/2​ of the total number of flowers in the basket?
        (Thanks)

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          Muffins
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          pensiveowl:
          Hi, could someone pls help with this question:


          May had 48 stalks of flowers in a basket. 1/3​ of them were roses and the rest were lilies and daisies. There were 4 more lilies than daisies. How many daisies should May buy such that the number of daisies would be 1/2​ of the total number of flowers in the basket?
          (Thanks)
          Hi 🙂

          If 1/3 were roses, that means 2/3 were lilies and daisies. That mean shat there are 48 x 2/3 = 32 lilies and daisies. If there were 4 more lilies than daisies, that means that there were 14 daisies and 18 lilies. If she wants the daisies to equal half of the basket i.e. 48 x 1/2 = 24, she should buy 24 - 14 = 10 more lilies

          Hope you understand 😄

          Cheers!

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          • MathIzzzFunM Offline
            MathIzzzFun
            last edited by

            pensiveowl:
            Hi, could someone pls help with this question:


            May had 48 stalks of flowers in a basket. 1/3​ of them were roses and the rest were lilies and daisies. There were 4 more lilies than daisies. How many daisies should May buy such that the number of daisies would be 1/2​ of the total number of flowers in the basket?
            (Thanks)
            roses --> 1/3 x 48 = 16
            lilies and daisies --> 48 - 16 = 32
            daisies --> (32-4) ÷ 2 = 14

            use MD to do the next part.. I will use units here...

            Number of daisies to buy --> 1 unit, new total number of daisies --> 1 unit + 14
            New total --> 1 unit + 48 --- this is twice the number of daisies

            so, 1 unit + 48 = 2 units + 28
            1 unit --> 20

            May should buy 20 more daisies.
            (total number of flowers - 68, daisies - 34)

            cheers.

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              pensiveowl
              last edited by

              MathIzzzFun:
              pensiveowl:

              Hi, could someone pls help with this question:


              May had 48 stalks of flowers in a basket. 1/3​ of them were roses and the rest were lilies and daisies. There were 4 more lilies than daisies. How many daisies should May buy such that the number of daisies would be 1/2​ of the total number of flowers in the basket?
              (Thanks)

              roses --> 1/3 x 48 = 16
              lilies and daisies --> 48 - 16 = 32
              daisies --> (32-4) ÷ 2 = 14

              use MD to do the next part.. I will use units here...

              Number of daisies to buy --> 1 unit, new total number of daisies --> 1 unit + 14
              New total --> 1 unit + 48 --- this is twice the number of daisies

              so, 1 unit + 48 = 2 units + 28
              1 unit --> 20

              May should buy 20 more daisies.
              (total number of flowers - 68, daisies - 34)

              cheers.


              Thanks very much MathIzzzFun!

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              • MathIzzzFunM Offline
                MathIzzzFun
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                pensiveowl:
                MathIzzzFun:

                Hi, could someone pls help with this question:


                May had 48 stalks of flowers in a basket. 1/3​ of them were roses and the rest were lilies and daisies. There were 4 more lilies than daisies. How many daisies should May buy such that the number of daisies would be 1/2​ of the total number of flowers in the basket?
                (Thanks)

                roses --> 1/3 x 48 = 16
                lilies and daisies --> 48 - 16 = 32
                daisies --> (32-4) ÷ 2 = 14

                use MD to do the next part.. I will use units here...

                Number of daisies to buy --> 1 unit, new total number of daisies --> 1 unit + 14
                New total --> 1 unit + 48 --- this is twice the number of daisies

                so, 1 unit + 48 = 2 units + 28
                1 unit --> 20

                May should buy 20 more daisies.
                (total number of flowers - 68, daisies - 34)

                cheers.


                Thanks very much MathIzzzFun!

                u r welcome.

                the question could be solved in a quicker way, using the concept of constant difference/gap.

                The difference in total number of daisies and total number of flowers = 48 - 14 = 34

                When additional daisies are bought, the same number is added to the total and to the number of daisies --> so, the difference will remain the same.

                In the end, the total number of flowers = 2 x number of daisies
                since the difference is 34, the total number in the end = 34 x 2 = 68
                additional number of daisies to be purchased = 34-14 = 20.

                cheers.

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                  Jamesbond
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                  Tan painted 1/4 of a pole red and 1 2/3m of the pole blue. The rest of the pole was not painted. If the pole is 6m long, what was the length of the pole that was not painted?


                  Can somebody help me…

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                    kiasuMay11
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                    Jamesbond:
                    Tan painted 1/4 of a pole red and 1 2/3m of the pole blue. The rest of the pole was not painted. If the pole is 6m long, what was the length of the pole that was not painted?


                    Can somebody help me.....
                    1/4 of 6m = 1.5m = 3/2m
                    Red+Blue = 3/2+5/3 = 19/6m
                    Not painted = 6 - 19/6 = 2.83m

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                      Jamesbond
                      last edited by

                      Thank u very much…I solved it this way…

                      Length of the pole=6m
                      1/4 of 6m= 1.5m
                      1.5+1 2/3=31/6m painted
                      6-3 1/6m=2 5/6m not painted…

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                        Jamesbond
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                        Pl solve this for me....

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