Government, what you really want us to do?

[Mychildren]

I never ever think of what government really want us to do?

But instead thinking of what I want to do for my country, my family, my friends & to those that I don’t even know.

[Imami]

nightlone:

sleepy:

I subscribed to the exact same thinking too!
Hence, become a SAHM

good for you! :rahrah:

Indeed, I agree - what's the point if parents just dump them at grandparents' place? I hv two colleagues on such arrangement. The kid now three and a half, has been at grandma's place since birth. He only return to his home on weekends. During the weekdays, he stay at grandma's home.

I find this a very uncomfortable scenario.

Another colleague, due to give birth this dec, will also be having such arrangement - either leave at nanny's place from Sunday night to Friday evening or at grandma's place, same thing check in Sunday night check our fri evening.

When I asked her the reason, she said because she could not imagine a life of not enough sleep. She said, if her sleep quality/quantity is compromised, she can't work. When I ask her, haven't she expected this prior to planning for a child ( someone\" accident\" then have a child, this couple plan for one)? She said no, never thought of it. :faint:

[ruohoo97]

:salute:

Mychildren:

I never ever think of what government really want us to do?

But instead thinking of what I want to do for my country, my family, my friends & to those that I don't even know.

[janet88]

It's hard to be a parent.

But if couples have no plans to have any kids, then they really should do something to avoid the 'accident'...but don't have regrets 10 years down the road and get desperate for kids...go for IVF and other means.

With kids, lots of sacrifices have to be made. Those late night parties, pack up anytime holidays, sleep in late are first to go. Govt can offer lots of perks but having kids is a lifelong committment. No matter what carrot is dangling in front of me, 2 is more than enough especially the education stage which is killing. :?:

[limlim]

pirate:

The more interesting question is why was Mr Mohamed Saif Mohamed Salleh's application to register his children as Singapore citizens not successful? Maybe somebody thinks we already have too many children who are citizens?

I don't feel there is any problem with it.. If the kids are male, they will get their citizenship after or before NS.

Apparently, that Mr Salleh is not a citizen. How committed they are to SG is a question..

[limlim]

pirate:

But the people I know the norm is less than six months. 5 years to get PR for spouse is not the norm.

just curious.. those \"people\" that you know, do they happen to be civil servants, grassroots? PA etc..?

[pirate]

limlim:

Apparently, that Mr Salleh is not a citizen. How committed they are to SG is a question..

I don't know, it's not clear from the report. But I read it as apparently Mr Salleh is a Singapore citizen. If Mr Salleh is not a citizen, then the attempt to get his children registered as citizens is a non-starter. But if he is a citizen, then there must be some reason that is not reported. I am just lamenting Singapore journalism here. :razz:

The people I know are not civil servants, grassroots or PA etc. But the SC husbands (ie. sponsors) are all university graduates, and include lawyers, bankers, business executives etc. The wives have passports from Japan, S Korea, UK, Malaysia etc.

Must say I don't know anyone who applied who is a hawker, cleaner, taxi driver etc, or whose wife hold passports from places like Philippines, Vietnam, Cambodia etc.

[limlim]

If any of the parent is a SC, the child will be SC. No need to apply at all. Unless, they explicitly rejected the citizenship earlier.


I’m not too sure abt the case if the parent is subsequently converted to SC, but then, they should still be able to apply based on citizenship by descent.

That’s why I said apparently neither of the parent is a citizen.

Or, like what you said… some info not released…

[pirate]

I suspect the children were not born in Singapore, that's why must register. And probably because Mr Salleh never studied Singapore's Constitution (surprise!), he failed to do that within one year.


If one reads Articles 121, 122, 123 and 129 of the Singapore Constitution, one realizes that there are different classes of Singapore Citizens with different rights. It is not true that all citizens are equal. :faint:

[resgmom]

pirate:

I suspect the children were not born in Singapore, that's why must register. And probably because Mr Salleh never studied Singapore's Constitution (surprise!), he failed to do that within one year.


If one reads Articles 121, 122, 123 and 129 of the Singapore Constitution, one realizes that there are different classes of Singapore Citizens with different rights. It is not true that all citizens are equal. :faint:

I am curious and looked at the http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/search/display/view.w3p;ident=cb6a2b64-73d3-4839-a834-d31803e8a05f;query=Status%3Acurinforce%20Type%3Aact,sl%20Content%3A%22singapore%22%20Content%3A%22constitution%22;rec=1;resUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fstatutes.agc.gov.sg%2Faol%2Fsearch%2Fsummary%2Fresults.w3p%3Bquery%3DStatus%253Acurinforce%2520Type%253Aact,sl%2520Content%253A%2522singapore%2522%2520Content%253A%2522constitution%2522#P1X-.. There are different types of Singapore citizens (by birth, registration, etc), but I don't see any mentioning of the different rights? Please enlighten me?