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    • M Offline
      micollh
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      im still doubtful abt dishwasher… im not comfortable abt putting anything plastic even if it’s BPA free… water bottles/lunch box…but from the sharings from u guys… get me tempted to go n see see…

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        Breadandmuffins
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        hi ice mountain

        I rinse off whatever’s on the utensils and put them in a big box bfore running the dishwasher at night. Normally i do only one cycle as Iwill make a point to wash those non-oily ones (such as those used for fruits/bread) by hand as and when they are done. I dont put my wok inside as it took up too much space but my wmf pots can go in.

        Hi micollh
        Wy is there a concern with the plastic stuff? Is it becos of the temp and that some chemical stuff will get released or something? So far, the bottles/ lunch boxes (eg dora ones fr ntuc) and those takeaway containers fr hawker centre are ok after washing.

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          b2b3m4
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          micollh:
          im still doubtful abt dishwasher.. im not comfortable abt putting anything plastic even if it's BPA free.. water bottles/lunch box...but from the sharings from u guys.. get me tempted to go n see see..

          u can wash your dishes at lower temp like 40 degrees and skipped the drying program if u are worried abt heating plastic.
          But at lower temp, u may have problem cleaning dried up food in pots and pans.

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            b2b3m4
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            Breadandmuffins:

            Wy is there a concern with the plastic stuff? Is it becos of the temp and that some chemical stuff will get released or something? So far, the bottles/ lunch boxes (eg dora ones fr ntuc) and those takeaway containers fr hawker centre are ok after washing.
            u put that in dishwasher too???!!! wow, i dare not put them in as i tot they looked too flimsy and has a tendency to be \"flipped over\" by the strong water spray.

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              coralie
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              Just to share. A friend, who's single, installed this Gaggenau steamer and an induction cooker into his island console in the kitchen. So he only had a wok and a pot besides this steamer 🙂


              http://www.gaggenau.com/sg/product/VK411

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                icemountain
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                b2b3m4:
                icemountain:



                Hi, you mind telling me what brand you use? I didn't know a wok can fit into a dishwasher, among the other stuff!

                Miele, bought it during the Harvey Norman promotion at less than $2K. With the cutlery tray instead of a cutlery basket, it free up so much more space at the lower basket. Then just tilt the wok slightly, u can fit in the glass wok cover and a small pot. The large plates all go to the front side. Then i put the kids's bowls, plates, cups in the middle basket. The cutley tray is used for cultery, knives, scissors and all the covers of the lunch boxes or water bottles.
                So i fit practically the whole day's dishes PLUS lunchboxes into the dishwasher at night. Every night i will have 4 lunchboxes to wash even before i prepare dinner.

                Sounds great! I've been reading up on dishwashers and so far Bosch and Miele come up tops. I don't mind spending $$ on a good one that can last. I hear Miele is really quiet too? Is this the one you have?

                http://www.harveynorman.com.sg/home-appliances/kitchen/dishwashers/miele-g-4300sc.html

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                  b2b3m4
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                  icemountain:


                  Sounds great! I've been reading up on dishwashers and so far Bosch and Miele come up tops. I don't mind spending $$ on a good one that can last. I hear Miele is really quiet too? Is this the one you have?

                  http://www.harveynorman.com.sg/home-appliances/kitchen/dishwashers/miele-g-4300sc.html
                  Yep! Thats the one. There is only 2 other stand alone dishwasher from Miele in SG. Think they were in the range of $2K to $4k.
                  You can view all 3 models at Harvey Norman at Millenia Walk. Don bother to go down to their Miele boutique in town, they only have the integrated dishwashers.
                  It is really quiet. Quieter than my washing machine. For the above promotion, it comes tog with miele dishwashing tablets. U will need to buy rinse aid, salt is not necessary for water in SG.
                  After u purchase, a miele personnel will come to your home to demonstrate and show u how to use the dishwasher. U can get ready some tricky pots and pans and she will show u how to load all of them in. She will bring some Miele products too, so if u want to buy any Miele dishwashing powder or any other stuff, u can get it from the Miele rep.

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                    xenophilia
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                    Dear Fellow Parents,


                    I’m very new to this forum & I joined because I found this topic very close to heart.
                    I haven’t had the time to read all 200+ pages of the posts, but I’m currently in a bit of a fix so need your advice.

                    DD is turning 20 months. I have a maid that was with me for the past 13-14 months. As this is my first time employing a maid… I made several mistakes over time.

                    Both DH & me work full time. Initially, the maid was very good. Obedient, Initiative & most importantly good with my DD. I used to wonder why some people give their maids 101 rules & regulations & are so nasty to their maids. I always treated her as a "HELPER", and as a friend. I felt that this was her temporary home away from home.

                    So the maid used to go to my MIL’s house with DD. My MIL adopts this attitude "I’ll keep an eye on her but she was hired by you, so it’s not my problem. If she does some housework, then good. If she doesn’t then she’s not my maid, she’s yours"… so as time passes, the maid started to get lazy. MIL is also the type that cannot stay home. So she started bring DD to the playground with the maid or ask the maid to bring DD downstairs etc… I gave her a cheap mobile so she can be reachable (In case of emergency eg. getting lost etc)

                    So the maid got to know some friends. (Plus apparently, she told me that once she got her own phone, she called back the agency & the trainer gave her the numbers of the rest of the maids in her batch).

                    Here’s why my headache starts.
                    She asked me if she could buy a entry level smart phone. Said that her friend has one & she really likes it. So I told her straight up no using of phone during work hours, no wifi will be provided by me. It’s her money, so I let her spend it the way she wants to.
                    Then she started to be on the phone all the time. Texting, Chatting, Listening to Music & her friend set up a FB account for her. Ok, story sounds familiar?

                    Then, sometimes she will put eyeliner and self portraits of herself & post on FB. So she’s human right?

                    Then we moved the arrangements & sent her to my mum’s place instead of MIL. When daughter naps in afternoon, maid naps WITH her. I start to feel like she is too "attached" to my DD. Eg. They snuggle & nap in afternoon (Everynight DD sleeps with us) then eg. I hold DD hand, maid will snatch the other hand. (Maybe I’m jealous?). I discipline DD, and DD cry, maid will go hug her tell her it’s ok… etc…

                    Then Maid starts to "talk back" to us. Eg we tell her to do something, she will have some "reaction". She also hint to me that my MIL place is better (Because all her friends are there & my mom don’t let her bring DD downstairs)…

                    There was a sunday we went out without her… she stayed home the whole day. When I come home I see the house, I know she never do anything. i asked her what she did at home. She was caught off guard, she answered me "Nothing"… then i asked her whole day 12 hours at home you never step into the common toilet. How come the basin you never wash. The dirt already dry up. She kept quiet… then time for DD to sleep so I went to the room. When DD fell asleep about an hour later—> Maid already went back into her room. Guess what? The dirt in the basin still untouched. I washed it myself. Next day I snoop on her FB wall, she say she want to go home.

                    I think I’ve been super nice to her. I’ve given her a lot of free play, respect her as a human being, treated her as a friend. In fact all of us (including MIL & Mom) does that too…
                    There weren’t any major issues, like bring bangla bf home. She’s good with my DD, teaches her a lot of things… So… I’m really in a fix right now. I’m not too happy with her but I’m not sure if I’m just asking too much.

                    DD is very active & inquisitive type so Mom said not to send to CC as she is worried for DD. So I really don’t know what my options are. Both Mom & Mil don’t want to commit full time to take care of DD. Sometimes I see other people with such a good support system (eg. MIL take care) I’m so envious.

                    So… any suggestions?

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                      1amber
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                      Dear Xenophilia


                      My advice is to send your kid to a childcare. Check out the good ones that you can pop in anytime to have a look. I have had a bad experience with one at Pasir Ris but other than that I am sure there are many good ones around.

                      If mom and MIL cannot commit to taking care then they should not have a say in how DD should be cared for.

                      xenophilia:
                      Dear Fellow Parents,

                      I'm very new to this forum & I joined because I found this topic very close to heart.
                      I haven't had the time to read all 200+ pages of the posts, but I'm currently in a bit of a fix so need your advice.

                      DD is turning 20 months. I have a maid that was with me for the past 13-14 months. As this is my first time employing a maid... I made several mistakes over time.

                      Both DH & me work full time. Initially, the maid was very good. Obedient, Initiative & most importantly good with my DD. I used to wonder why some people give their maids 101 rules & regulations & are so nasty to their maids. I always treated her as a \"HELPER\", and as a friend. I felt that this was her temporary home away from home.

                      So the maid used to go to my MIL's house with DD. My MIL adopts this attitude \"I'll keep an eye on her but she was hired by you, so it's not my problem. If she does some housework, then good. If she doesn't then she's not my maid, she's yours\"... so as time passes, the maid started to get lazy. MIL is also the type that cannot stay home. So she started bring DD to the playground with the maid or ask the maid to bring DD downstairs etc... I gave her a cheap mobile so she can be reachable (In case of emergency eg. getting lost etc)

                      So the maid got to know some friends. (Plus apparently, she told me that once she got her own phone, she called back the agency & the trainer gave her the numbers of the rest of the maids in her batch).

                      Here's why my headache starts.
                      She asked me if she could buy a entry level smart phone. Said that her friend has one & she really likes it. So I told her straight up no using of phone during work hours, no wifi will be provided by me. It's her money, so I let her spend it the way she wants to.
                      Then she started to be on the phone all the time. Texting, Chatting, Listening to Music & her friend set up a FB account for her. Ok, story sounds familiar?

                      Then, sometimes she will put eyeliner and self portraits of herself & post on FB. So she's human right?

                      Then we moved the arrangements & sent her to my mum's place instead of MIL. When daughter naps in afternoon, maid naps WITH her. I start to feel like she is too \"attached\" to my DD. Eg. They snuggle & nap in afternoon (Everynight DD sleeps with us) then eg. I hold DD hand, maid will snatch the other hand. (Maybe I'm jealous?). I discipline DD, and DD cry, maid will go hug her tell her it's ok... etc...

                      Then Maid starts to \"talk back\" to us. Eg we tell her to do something, she will have some \"reaction\". She also hint to me that my MIL place is better (Because all her friends are there & my mom don't let her bring DD downstairs)...

                      There was a sunday we went out without her... she stayed home the whole day. When I come home I see the house, I know she never do anything. i asked her what she did at home. She was caught off guard, she answered me \"Nothing\"... then i asked her whole day 12 hours at home you never step into the common toilet. How come the basin you never wash. The dirt already dry up. She kept quiet... then time for DD to sleep so I went to the room. When DD fell asleep about an hour later---> Maid already went back into her room. Guess what? The dirt in the basin still untouched. I washed it myself. Next day I snoop on her FB wall, she say she want to go home.

                      I think I've been super nice to her. I've given her a lot of free play, respect her as a human being, treated her as a friend. In fact all of us (including MIL & Mom) does that too...
                      There weren't any major issues, like bring bangla bf home. She's good with my DD, teaches her a lot of things... So.... I'm really in a fix right now. I'm not too happy with her but I'm not sure if I'm just asking too much.

                      DD is very active & inquisitive type so Mom said not to send to CC as she is worried for DD. So I really don't know what my options are. Both Mom & Mil don't want to commit full time to take care of DD. Sometimes I see other people with such a good support system (eg. MIL take care) I'm so envious.

                      So... any suggestions?

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                        1amber
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                        Re: Dishdrawers

                        I am holidaying in nz now and staying in a self contained apartment. There is a half size (not the standalone type) dishwasher from Fisher & Pykel called the DishDrawer DD605. Measures 409x595x570mm. After using this I have changed my mind about small dishwashers. I find them very useful for a small family like ours. Good to have a standalone but if there is space constraints such a model will also suffice. We have already done away with our wok anyway.

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