MOE to stop publishing names of top students?
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him4mixer:
That is why I fail to understand why recruit foreign students when the top/IP JCs can take in more local ones. Locals ones can pick up HOT skills in a short time right?Sorry, enrolment statistics wise I’ve nothing much to share.
MOE will give each JC different number of scholars (some schools have more than others). There is a possible fixed quota for govt school but for independent ones we are more flexible. Usually we will go overseas and recruit foreign students on top of those already given to us by MOE. How many we recruit will depend on the capacity of the facilities in the school.
At sec school, Sec 3 ASEAN scholars taken in at top/IP sec schools. Local ones also need the places right?
No that there is no capacity to take in more local students.
Wonder who paid for the recruitment? :scratchhead: -
atutor2001:
:goodpost: :goodpost: :goodpost:If I may generalize, our children innate ability can be broadly classified into 2 groups \"versatile\" and \"non-versatile\". In Chinese, we can crudely translate it to \"round\" or \"square\".
\"Round\" people are more flexible, looks at things from different angles, can improvise...
\"Square\" people are more rigid, follow rules, seldom explore....
The GEP, IP or mainstream are made up of both groups of children. The percentage of \"Round\" people in GEP and IP is greater than mainstream. Those \"square\" people in GEP and IP will find it harder to catch up, has to put in much more effort.
There are many \"round\" people in the mainstream. Some may even be better than those in GEP or IP. They did not make it because of attitude - no desire to excel. Many parents are aware that their kids are \"round\" people. We are worried that the system has no more place left in IP when their \"round\" child wake up in later years. This is a very valid concern. However, based on my little knowledge of the system, if they do really wake up, there are ample opportunity for them to jump over.
Imho, most misconception that IP children have an unfair advantage arises because we only read about success. Little was published on the hard work that they (don't count those truly gifted - they are from another planet) need to put in. We can only see our kids working hard, producing results (in our opinion, more than adequate) and felt that they deserve to be there. Maybe parents of those with children doing well should share more on how much effort their kids have put in to be there. Then we can compare the sacrifice made and not just the results.
We felt that the standard is ridiculous. However, we may not have a choice if we compare with other Asian countries. We then bring out Finland. My belief is our Asian culture is different from theirs. What works for them may not work for us.
If I have a young \"round\" kid now, I will do my best to nurture the correct attitude (must be done before Pr1). Once the attitude is right, tuition may not be a must.
If I have a young \"square\" kid, nurturing the correct attitude must still be done. However, I may let him/her progress at a pace that is comfortable. -
jtoh:
Eh, cannot any old IP school. Must be top IP school only. lol![/quote]Yes only mountain summits are hot enough. Nearer to the sun.Twinkies:
[quote=\"CayennePepper\"]How many total IP places will we now have, with the various new IP schools next year?
Think it's never enough, til every P6er gets a place ? LOL. -
sinoboy:
That is why I fail to understand why recruit foreign students when the top/IP JCs can take in more local ones. Locals ones can pick up HOT skills in a short time right?him4mixer:
Sorry, enrolment statistics wise I’ve nothing much to share.
MOE will give each JC different number of scholars (some schools have more than others). There is a possible fixed quota for govt school but for independent ones we are more flexible. Usually we will go overseas and recruit foreign students on top of those already given to us by MOE. How many we recruit will depend on the capacity of the facilities in the school.
At sec school, Sec 3 ASEAN scholars taken in at top/IP sec schools. Local ones also need the places right?
No that there is no capacity to take in more local students.
Wonder who paid for the recruitment? :scratchhead:
Brain.
Not entitlement.
If SG don't have enough brains, then we shall seek.
Can't be so short sighted counting the dollars and cents now, it's an investment. -
atutor2001:
Perhaps you can try 狮城论坛's version of KSP threads and perhaps you'll find some answers.
Imho, most misconception that IP children have an unfair advantage arises because we only read about success. Little was published on the hard work that they (don't count those truly gifted - they are from another planet) need to put in. We can only see our kids working hard, producing results (in our opinion, more than adequate) and felt that they deserve to be there. Maybe parents with children doing well should share more on how much effort their kids have put in order to be there. Then we can compare the sacrifice made and not just the results.
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Twinkies:
Brain.
That is why I fail to understand why recruit foreign students when the top/IP JCs can take in more local ones. Locals ones can pick up HOT skills in a short time right?sinoboy:
[quote=\"him4mixer\"]Sorry, enrolment statistics wise I’ve nothing much to share.
MOE will give each JC different number of scholars (some schools have more than others). There is a possible fixed quota for govt school but for independent ones we are more flexible. Usually we will go overseas and recruit foreign students on top of those already given to us by MOE. How many we recruit will depend on the capacity of the facilities in the school.
At sec school, Sec 3 ASEAN scholars taken in at top/IP sec schools. Local ones also need the places right?
No that there is no capacity to take in more local students.
Wonder who paid for the recruitment? :scratchhead:
Not entitlement.
If SG don't have enough brains, then we shall seek.
Can't be so short sighted counting the dollars and cents now, it's an investment.[/quote]Wow Twinkles you sound like a miniStar! :salute: -
Aberc:
Overseas unis... also can be very competitive. It's not always a case of I Have Money Give Me A Place. :razz:It is indeed very competitive to get into local uni. Here's the link to the indicative grade profile published by nus.
http://www.nus.edu.sg/oam/gradeprofile/sprogramme-igp.html
Maybe I should consider moonlighting to earn more money and give my kids papamama scholarship to an overseas uni - or better yet send them to do foundation yr in Aussie and skip 'a' levels altogether!
By 2020, it is expected that up to half of each cohort could receive a government-subsidised degree education.
Share this link again:-
http://www.moe.gov.sg/media/press/2012/08/greater-diversity-more-opportunities-in-singapores-university-sector.phpp -
quote=\"sinoboy\"]
Twinkies:
Brain.
That is why I fail to understand why recruit foreign students when the top/IP JCs can take in more local ones. Locals ones can pick up HOT skills in a short time right?sinoboy:
[quote=\"him4mixer\"]Sorry, enrolment statistics wise I’ve nothing much to share.
MOE will give each JC different number of scholars (some schools have more than others). There is a possible fixed quota for govt school but for independent ones we are more flexible. Usually we will go overseas and recruit foreign students on top of those already given to us by MOE. How many we recruit will depend on the capacity of the facilities in the school.
At sec school, Sec 3 ASEAN scholars taken in at top/IP sec schools. Local ones also need the places right?
No that there is no capacity to take in more local students.
Wonder who paid for the recruitment? :scratchhead:
Not entitlement.
If SG don't have enough brains, then we shall seek.
Can't be so short sighted counting the dollars and cents now, it's an investment.[/quote]Wow Twinkles you sound like a miniStar! :salute:[/quote]
is a fact. singapore has no enough thinking people, with many loud mouth but narrow minded xenophobic nationalist clamoring on personal interest in the short term only
not referring to any one specific here -
CayennePepper:
Yes only mountain summits are hot enough. Nearer to the sun.[/quote]Be fearful of the Icarus effect. :rotflmao:
Eh, cannot any old IP school. Must be top IP school only. lol!jtoh:
[quote=\"Twinkies\"]
Think it's never enough, til every P6er gets a place ? LOL. -
sinoboy:
Wow Twinkles you sound like a miniStar! :salute:[/quote]
Brain.Twinkies:
[quote=\"sinoboy\"]
No that there is no capacity to take in more local students.
Wonder who paid for the recruitment? :scratchhead:
Not entitlement.
If SG don't have enough brains, then we shall seek.
Can't be so short sighted counting the dollars and cents now, it's an investment.
Experience talk. I am one \"taken\" away from SG. World's common practice.
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