GEP Preparatory Program
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Fairyprincess:
Think most of the GEP schools have full enrolment...some even exceeded...understand HPPS has shortfall but not sure about the rest. If parents chip in with the no. for, say, this year's cohort vs what was announced during the briefing, you can work out the no. who chose to drop.Be Contented- you are right....
Earlier, there was discussion in the KSP GEP forums about number of kids who qualified per school....I rem NYPS was 25 kids, while ACS was abot 35 etc...so 20% may mean 1 kid out of 4 who qualified....
In any case, its still some kids who opt out- I am trying to understand why they did so...
Thank you parents.
But it's really a personal decision...I won't use the figure for any trend analysis. -
Nebbermind:
Sure- not much analysis can be done on the info- I am just wondering why parents/ kids opt out for GEP...
Think most of the GEP schools have full enrolment...some even exceeded...understand HPPS has shortfall but not sure about the rest. If parents chip in with the no. for, say, this year's cohort vs what was announced during the briefing, you can work out the no. who chose to drop.
But it's really a personal decision...I won't use the figure for any trend analysis.
Fanren- sure, going back to mainstream is an option as well... -
fanren:
Since GEP has their own sets of curriculum and test papers, they should have their top 5 or 10 per cent among the gep classes to qualify for the educate award, the mainstream will have their own award lo. Separate.you can chech moe website. Shortchange or not I suggest dun dwell too much. As long as they enjoy their gep journey they won't trade for the few hundred bucks la.[/quote]Thanks much for the reply. It's not so much about the amount, but just that some want the \"continuity\" of getting edusave award every year.
I genuinely would also like to find out regarding the above. Anyone?sunflower:
[quote=\"sunflower\"]Actually I’m quite curious. I believe majority of those who got into GEP would have received edusave award at some point (or maybe every year) from P1 to P3. I’ve read that it seems to be a struggle to even get 70%, let alone 80% or even 90% in their GEP results. Since the edusave award is for the top 25%, are GEP students considered for the edusave award, since they are doing different papers from mainstreamers in the school exams?
As getting above 90% in top mainstream classes, esp in P4 is not as difficult as compared to students in GEP who I understand need to struggle to even get 80%, are GEP students short-changed in this area then? i.e. from P4 onwards, less chance to receive edusave award as when they were in P1 – P3? …or do they separate GEP from mainstream in the school for the award? Can someone please enlighten me. Thanks.
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Fairyprincess:
What did the parents of the child(is it a girl) who opt out say? Is the child in the 2013 p4 cohort?
Sure- not much analysis can be done on the info- I am just wondering why parents/ kids opt out for GEP...
Fanren- sure, going back to mainstream is an option as well... -
For parents who come into this thread to find out more about GEP/prep courses, I can tell you that based on the information I get, going through GEP prep courses will greatly enhance the chance of your child getting into GEP. Obviously, this is not a guarantee, but it does greatly enhance your kids' chance if they can do well for the GEP prep courses.
For those parents coming in to enquire about whether their kids should join GEP if given a chance, my opinion is why not? The fact that govt give so much priority, privilege, etc and you don't want? :siao: -
Gentle reminder to everyone that this is the GEP section, meaning that it is intended for parents with children who are already in or about to be in the GEP. In other words, it serves no purpose for anyone to post arguments about the fairness of the GEP program in this specific sub-Forum.
If this discussion continues in its current mode, we will be moving the thread into the Rants sub-Forum, which is probably more suited given the rather consistent combative nature of debators.
Please stick to the title of the thread by the original thread starter, which is a discussion on GEP Preparatory Programs. Even though I am personally appalled by the thought that parents would try to make their kids go through such programmes to increase their chance of being identified as "gifted", I cannot deny that such services do exist, and banning discussions would only amount to information asymmetry, which goes against our grain as an independent portal. It is better for us to understand what we are dealing with, rather to shut our eyes and make believe that the problem doesn’t exist. -
Back to GEP Prep Progs- let me give you 2 different views:
1. As a GEP parent, I attended the GEP briefing in Nov 2012- I asked the question of how many GEP students eventually opt out and go back to mainstream. The Principal of one of the GEP Sch’s reply was "if your child got in due to GEP prep prog, he may face difficulty remaining in GEP"
2. I also called one GEP Prep Prog Ctr named Dr XXXXX- Dr XXXXX told me "what?! you mean your child got into GEP without any help/ enrichment- I have never heard of that before!"(I believe it is a marketing or scare tactic)
So parents- you can make your own conclusion from these comments.
Meanwhile- if more parents know of friends whose child got into GEP but opt out/ did not join- pls share how many and the reasons why…
Firefly38- why your 3 friends turn down GEP? What were their reasons?
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BeContented:
You're right, percentage can be misleading :rotflmao:
Maybe would be good to know in terms of absolute numbers as well? Some Schs have a much larger number who quality, some are rather small.CayennePepper:
In my ds's school, 20%-25% opted out. They had various reasons for doing so: they love the school so did not want to transfer out, they didn't feel they can cope with the programme (no tuition/enrichment), and also some parents felt that GEP will disadvantage the kids at PSLE
During DD year, 100% took up GEP but that's cos only 1 kid clear the selection
My 20%-25% is at least 3 whom i know and can verify, but i'm hearing there're 1 or 2 more. Plus i don't know the exact number who got in, rumoured to be 12 or 13 or 14 or 15... -
Fairyprincess:
Wa, this DR XXX is quite 'mountain tortoise' hor (or act blur).. Never heard of a single kid who got into GEP without attending any GEP Prep Course.. Maybe he should come out of his 山洞 to see the real world outside..Back to GEP Prep Progs- let me give you 2 different views:
1. As a GEP parent, I attended the GEP briefing in Nov 2012- I asked the question of how many GEP students eventually opt out and go back to mainstream. The Principal of one of the GEP Sch's reply was \"if your child got in due to GEP prep prog, he may face difficulty remaining in GEP\"
2. I also called one GEP Prep Prog Ctr named Dr XXXXX- Dr XXXXX told me \"what?! you mean your child got into GEP without any help/ enrichment- I have never heard of that before!\"(I believe it is a marketing or scare tactic)
So parents- you can make your own conclusion from these comments.
Meanwhile- if more parents know of friends whose child got into GEP but
opt out/ did not join- pls share how many and the reasons why...
Firefly38- why your 3 friends turn down GEP? What were their reasons?
Thank you.
My DS1 is one who got into GEP without attending any tuition in any subject.. And I know none of his classesmates did too (2008 have GEP Prep Course or not?)..
As for the 3 kids who turned down GEP, 2 are siblings.. Same reasons, they don't want to change school lor..
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Fairyprincess:
Just to share another point of view. A friend whose daughter is taking maths enrichment at a certain maths enrichment centre told me that many parents had requested this centre to open a GEP prep class. Heard this centre is not doing that because the founder, a Dr XXXX does not believe in preparing children for the GEP tests.Back to GEP Prep Progs- let me give you 2 different views:
1. As a GEP parent, I attended the GEP briefing in Nov 2012- I asked the question of how many GEP students eventually opt out and go back to mainstream. The Principal of one of the GEP Sch's reply was \"if your child got in due to GEP prep prog, he may face difficulty remaining in GEP\"
2. I also called one GEP Prep Prog Ctr named Dr XXXXX- Dr XXXXX told me \"what?! you mean your child got into GEP without any help/ enrichment- I have never heard of that before!\"(I believe it is a marketing or scare tactic)
So parents- you can make your own conclusion from these comments.
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