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      concern2
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      Wah seh! Interesting move!


      WP withdraws motion to debate town council issue in Parliament
      (source: http://www.asiaone.com/News/Latest+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20130110-394555.html)

      SINGAPORE - In a statement released to the press today, Workers' Party (WP) chairman Sylvia Lim said that she will be withdrawing the adjournment motion to debate town council issue in Parliament on January 14.

      Since mid-December 2012, there has been much discussion and concern about whether the 14 PAP- managed Town Councils had acted in the public interest in selling their computing and financial software systems to Action information Management Pte Ltd (AIM) before General Election 2011.

      Despite various media statements by AIM and PAP representatives, critical questions remained unanswered, which led me to fiie an adjournment motion on 8 January 2013 on safeguarding the public interest in Town Council management, scheduled for the next Parliamentary sitting.

      On the evening of 8 January 2013, the Prime Minister indicated in a statement that he had directed the Ministry of National Development to conduct a broad-based review of the fundamenta! nature of town councils and also to investigate the AIM transaction.

      Given this latest, Welcome development, I believe the goal of protecting the public and residents' interests would be better served if the government investigation and review were to first proceed. After the completion of the review and publication of its findings, the matter can be raised in Parliament again as the circumstances require.

      In view of these considerations, I will be withdrawing the adjournment motion scheduled for 14 January 2013. On its part, Aljunied-Hougang Town Council is ready to provide its input to MND for the review.

      SYLVIA LIM
      MP FOR ALJUNIED
      CHAIRMAN, ALJUNIED-HOUGANG TOWN COUNCIL

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        3Boys
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        concern2:
        Wah seh! Interesting move!


        WP withdraws motion to debate town council issue in Parliament
        (source: http://www.asiaone.com/News/Latest+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20130110-394555.html)

        SINGAPORE - In a statement released to the press today, Workers' Party (WP) chairman Sylvia Lim said that she will be withdrawing the adjournment motion to debate town council issue in Parliament on January 14.

        Since mid-December 2012, there has been much discussion and concern about whether the 14 PAP- managed Town Councils had acted in the public interest in selling their computing and financial software systems to Action information Management Pte Ltd (AIM) before General Election 2011.

        Despite various media statements by AIM and PAP representatives, critical questions remained unanswered, which led me to fiie an adjournment motion on 8 January 2013 on safeguarding the public interest in Town Council management, scheduled for the next Parliamentary sitting.

        On the evening of 8 January 2013, the Prime Minister indicated in a statement that he had directed the Ministry of National Development to conduct a broad-based review of the fundamenta! nature of town councils and also to investigate the AIM transaction.

        Given this latest, Welcome development, I believe the goal of protecting the public and residents' interests would be better served if the government investigation and review were to first proceed. After the completion of the review and publication of its findings, the matter can be raised in Parliament again as the circumstances require.

        In view of these considerations, I will be withdrawing the adjournment motion scheduled for 14 January 2013. On its part, Aljunied-Hougang Town Council is ready to provide its input to MND for the review.

        SYLVIA LIM
        MP FOR ALJUNIED
        CHAIRMAN, ALJUNIED-HOUGANG TOWN COUNCIL
        Next, people jumping at shadows will say WP are complicit with the MIW.

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          sunflower
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          3Boys:
          Next, people jumping at shadows will say WP are complicit with the MIW.

          No lah…think since PM has already asked for review, they want to see what comes out of it and if there’s any new revelation BEFORE sussing out the details for the parliamentary debate.

          AND need to set the priority right...at this time, I think they want to consolidate resources and concentrate on the by-election.

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            BlurDad
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            I am just curious: How do we register a new political party? Is it like company registration with minimum $2 paid-up capital? How do they get their revenue? Any law that governs it? If political parties can own companies, where do they get their operating income from? …

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              BlurDad
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              [quote=\"concern2\"]Wah seh! Interesting move!


              WP withdraws motion to debate town council issue in Parliament
              (source: http://www.asiaone.com/News/Latest+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20130110-394555.html)
              ...............
              Despite various media statements by AIM and PAP representatives, critical questions remained unanswered, which led me to fiie an adjournment motion on 8 January 2013 on safeguarding the public interest in Town Council management, scheduled for the next Parliamentary sitting.

              On the evening of 8 January 2013, the Prime Minister indicated in a statement that he had directed the Ministry of National Development to conduct a broad-based review of the fundamenta! nature of town councils and also to investigate the AIM transaction.....

              From this episode, it is clear that to have an Alternative Voice in Parliament does make a difference - to keep our Government on the toe and to ensure Transparency / Accountability. Personally, I think none of the opponents have enough expertise to tackle the global/national issues facing us yet... but over time hopefully more-able Singaporeans will step forward / take personal interest of our Nation's well being. Moving away this notion of equating a political party to a government... fundamentally is \"flaw\".

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                BlurDad
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                3Boys:
                pirate:

                ......

                The PAP should realize that members of Generation X, and subsequent generations, grew up and were educated here after 1965. We had been (on the whole) brought up by the education system put in place by the PAP to believe that integrity, good governance and transparency are to be expected from our public officials. And the demographics shift more towards this every year. This is the new middle ground.
                Many of us may not necessarily disagree with much of the PAP's policies...
                .

                ....Town Council is one thing. How about People's Association? How about PAP Community Foundation?
                It's like the People's Liberation Army in China. It technically reports to the Communist Party, not the state....
                .

                What forming the core group of Singaporeans will be those born after 1965 moving forward. Most of us are well-educated / well-informed, we want to have more freedom to view our opinions - Not to be talked down without any good discussions / debates like in the past. Our system is more like a \"hybrid\" democracy/authoritarian as pointed out. I think it served us well in the past when quick decisions can be made.

                However, to effect the change now (like last GE), firstly I would think it is imperative for the future of Singapore - to have credible Alternative Voices (not so much to upset the functioning of the effective Government) but rather to act as a passenger to slap the driver when he is asleep sometimes.

                Besides, in order for all Singaporeans to have a chance to vote, to exercise our choice - we need opponents otherwise it will be just another \"walk-over\". Our concerns won't be taken seriously or on their radar screen at all.

                Certainly, there must be a clear separation between what is state-owned & party-owned to ensure Above-the-board competitions at all times - to provide level playing field (of course, PAP is the incumbent & have the first mover advantage). Only by acting collectively can we change this entrenched behavior. It takes time, I believe we can achieve it.

                PAP must have confidence / trust that majority of Singaporeans are sensible and love our country.

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                  Way2GO
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                  concern2:
                  Wah seh! Interesting move!


                  WP withdraws motion to debate town council issue in Parliament
                  More than interesting, wld say its a gud counter move by SL after PM's announcement to review d TC-AIM tender/transaction.
                  Don't recall PM said 'investigate', only review by MND.
                  - 2 quite different thing.
                  d terms of reference for d review hv been carefully crafted in his statement.
                  SL has conveniently included investigation in her statement. Let's see how far or deep dis will go.

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                    sunflower
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                    Way2GO:
                    concern2:

                    Wah seh! Interesting move!


                    WP withdraws motion to debate town council issue in Parliament

                    More than interesting, wld say its a gud counter move by SL after PM's announcement to review d TC-AIM tender/transaction.
                    Don't recall PM said 'investigate', only review by MND.
                    - 2 quite different thing.
                    d terms of reference for d review hv been carefully crafted in his statement.
                    SL has conveniently included investigation in her statement. Let's see how far or deep dis will go.

                    Yup! Noticed that too and was wondering... :scratchhead:

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                      raysusan
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                      TCS DEVELOP THE SOFTWARE FOR $5M BEFORE SELLING TO AIM FOR $140K?


                      http://therealsingapore.com/content/tcs-develop-software-5m-selling-aim-140k

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                        AC_Power
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                        raysusan:
                        TCS DEVELOP THE SOFTWARE FOR $5M BEFORE SELLING TO AIM FOR $140K?


                        http://therealsingapore.com/content/tcs-develop-software-5m-selling-aim-140k
                        Software systems depreciate in values over time. Furthermore this system I believe it is very customised for the TC used and unlikely to have any reused value.

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