GEP Preparatory Program

[Nebbermind]

Moonsun55:

I am 1 of those who think GEP & IP schemes with their privileges are unfair, but I also won't bother to prep them for these otherwise I will put undue stress on them & bring up a toad in the well who only know how to study & nothing else. To prep for GEP, one has to start your kids early, heard friends start as young as K1, engaging those ex-GEP teachers to coach, & they are very effective indeed!. My kids will be going overseas for their U, I already set aside about half a million $ for each of my kid for their oversea U studies. I have the benefits of overseas U studies & I can see the tremendous benefits that come with such exposure.


P/S: talked to a friend just now & was told to set aside $800k per kid because of inflation.

I know of one better to do friend who have no plans to be drawn into the rat race. With that kind of money saved by not sending the kids for tuition, they can easily send them to international sch such as hc intl or acs intl where they believe the kid will be able to develop their potential.

[nansk]

Nebbermind:

Kiasucy:

Heard the GE classes are very noisy and some have discipline problem too, fight with teachers when being punished or just walk out of classroom, but then medal winners you know when comes to competition.

Believe discipline problem exist everywhere and not just gep. Jus that these kids are supposed to be the cream of the crop, that's why people judge them very differently.

So you don't agree that the GEP classes are given more of a free rein?
(Fwiw, I don't believe all 11 yo GEPpers are 14 yo in terms of maturity. I am sure the majority of them are just 11 yo kids, with perhaps above-average processing power.)

[Nebbermind]

nansk:

Nebbermind:

[quote=\"Kiasucy\"]
Heard the GE classes are very noisy and some have discipline problem too, fight with teachers when being punished or just walk out of classroom, but then medal winners you know when comes to competition.

Believe discipline problem exist everywhere and not just gep. Jus that these kids are supposed to be the cream of the crop, that's why people judge them very differently.

So you don't agree that the GEP classes are given more of a free rein?
(Fwiw, I don't believe all 11 yo GEPpers are 14 yo in terms of maturity. I am sure the majority of them are just 11 yo kids, with perhaps above-average processing power.)[/quote]not sure how is having a free rein related to having discipline problem.
:scratchhead:

[CayennePepper]

nansk:

Nebbermind:

[quote=\"Kiasucy\"]
Heard the GE classes are very noisy and some have discipline problem too, fight with teachers when being punished or just walk out of classroom, but then medal winners you know when comes to competition.

Believe discipline problem exist everywhere and not just gep. Jus that these kids are supposed to be the cream of the crop, that's why people judge them very differently.

So you don't agree that the GEP classes are given more of a free rein?
(Fwiw, I don't believe all 11 yo GEPpers are 14 yo in terms of maturity. I am sure the majority of them are just 11 yo kids, with perhaps above-average processing power.)[/quote]I don't know about other classes, but my ds's teachers seem to be quite strict. They spent a good deal of time talking about class rules!

[nansk]

Nebbermind:

nansk:

[quote=\"Nebbermind\"]
quote by \"Kiasucy\":
Heard the GE classes are very noisy and some have discipline problem too, fight with teachers when being punished or just walk out of classroom
Believe discipline problem exist everywhere and not just gep.

So you don't agree that the GEP classes are given more of a free rein?
(Fwiw, I don't believe all 11 yo GEPpers are 14 yo in terms of maturity. I am sure the majority of them are just 11 yo kids, with perhaps above-average processing power.)

not sure how is having a free rein related to having discipline problem.
:scratchhead:[/quote]What I meant is that, from what I have heard, GEP teachers tolerate and/or encourage their students to speak up more, express themselves freely, move about in the classroom, etc. These activities typically will generate more noise than traditional, sit-down-and-listen-to-lecture classrooms will.
But of course, re-reading Kiasucy's post, I cannot imagine any mainstream class teacher allowing students to 'fight' or 'walk out of the classroom'. I meant that I suppose the GEPpers have more freedom of expression.

[sunflower]

nansk:

What I meant is that, from what I have heard, GEP teachers tolerate and/or encourage their students to speak up more, express themselves freely, move about in the classroom, etc. These activities typically will generate more noise than traditional, sit-down-and-listen-to-lecture classrooms will.

But of course, re-reading Kiasucy's post, I cannot imagine any mainstream class teacher allowing students to 'fight' or 'walk out of the classroom'. I meant that I suppose the GEPpers have more freedom of expression.

Err…free rein also needs the right kind of students to participate. Sometimes in a mainstream classroom, teacher asks questions but get no response from students! Everyone just stares at the teacher, either not knowing the answer, too shy/scared to answer or expecting teacher to dish out answers. How to have lively discussions like that?

[Just relax]

Yes from my discussion with GEPper parents the kids tend to be able to express an opinion and most are not shy. The GEPpers have different strengths but the majority appear to be good in Maths. A fair bit are usually good in Science and/or English but MT seems to be a difficult hurdle for quite a few.


So the GEPpers tend to be capable of speaking out.

[CayennePepper]

One of the academic components is oral communication where the kids are expected to engage in critical discussions of issues, and to present their thoughts with precision and clarity. Towards that end, the teachers encourage meaningful feedback to class discussions; they would want to see (hear) the width and depth of the students’ thoughts. So that’s where the ‘speaking up’ part comes in.

[mama_10]

HVR:

chopin123:

i used to have the same conviction


now ..., i feel that i am \"wavering\". why? simply cause it isn't an absolute scoring - eg, you score >X%, you will get in. rather, it is RELATIVE to your peers. putting financials & extremely \"gifted\" kids aside, i feel that one will be put in an advantageous position if one has been exposed to some of the questions type.

(i feel the name of the program is somewhat \"misleading\" - a more accurate one would probably be \"high ability / advanced\" program / students.)

having said all the above - all compliments to students in the GEP program ... it isn't an easy program and you are top1% of your cohort. being top1% in any context is in itself very outstanding!

can anyone describe the Pri4 GEP program in a typical term (for example) ?

Since the program will select the top 1% of the cohort, in a sense this is 'relative', isn't it?

Seriously, I think parents should not send their children for any preparatory program. Even if your child is not selected due to lack of 'exposure to the question type', if he/she is truly gifted/high ability, he/she will definitely shine through eventually. Case in point, not all top and sucessful scholars are from GEP.

Take heart, if you read thru the forum here, you will find many parents have shared that they did not send their children for any GEP prep class and yet, their children surprised them and were selected for GEP. Cheers!

haha, its not right!
some of my friends sent their kids to those preparatory program \"secretly\", they still said \" I didnt prepare...\" until today even we found out later stage!

[fruittypie]

mama_10:

HVR:

[quote=\"chopin123\"]i used to have the same conviction


now ..., i feel that i am \"wavering\". why? simply cause it isn't an absolute scoring - eg, you score >X%, you will get in. rather, it is RELATIVE to your peers. putting financials & extremely \"gifted\" kids aside, i feel that one will be put in an advantageous position if one has been exposed to some of the questions type.

(i feel the name of the program is somewhat \"misleading\" - a more accurate one would probably be \"high ability / advanced\" program / students.)

having said all the above - all compliments to students in the GEP program ... it isn't an easy program and you are top1% of your cohort. being top1% in any context is in itself very outstanding!

can anyone describe the Pri4 GEP program in a typical term (for example) ?

Since the program will select the top 1% of the cohort, in a sense this is 'relative', isn't it?

Seriously, I think parents should not send their children for any preparatory program. Even if your child is not selected due to lack of 'exposure to the question type', if he/she is truly gifted/high ability, he/she will definitely shine through eventually. Case in point, not all top and sucessful scholars are from GEP.

Take heart, if you read thru the forum here, you will find many parents have shared that they did not send their children for any GEP prep class and yet, their children surprised them and were selected for GEP. Cheers!

haha, its not right!
some of my friends sent their kids to those preparatory program \"secretly\", they still said \" I didnt prepare...\" until today even we found out later stage![/quote]LOL! If you want, you can PM me for GEP preparation classes. I know of a place which conduct GEP preparation classes