Learning Hanyu Pinyin

[cherrygal]

In terms of teaching HYPY sounds and recognition of the sound symbols, I think Berries did a tremendous job. If you can’t teach it yourself, send your kid there for their P1 prep course (at K2). My boy learnt very quickly and was great at HYPY after that.

[GTGT]

Hi


Can anyone advise me what are the good materials for teaching Hanyu Pinyin at home ?

[sembgal]

Thank you for your tips. Actually my child has been attending Hanyu Pinyin cum Speech and Drama class when she was in K1 and that was more play-based to me.This year in K2, she has been attending a more formal and structured preparatory Hanyu Pinyin class since Term 1 Week 1. I understand that kindergartens and child care centres are not allowed to teach Hanyu Pinyin due to MOE’s advice. However, as this advice fell on deaf ears and some kindergartens and childcare centres went ahead to teach. To my understanding, if the child learns the wrong pronounciation, it may do more harm than good. So, there’s enrichment centres to tap on for outsource of Hanyu Pinyin lessons. Preschools Chinese teachers should not be blamed as they have received instructions not to teach Hanyu Pinyin from MOE. Due to this reason which parents are unaware of, very often, parents will point the finger at the preschool for not teaching Hanyu Pinyin when the child moves on to Primary 1 and cannot cope with the Hanyu Pinyin syllabus. Thus, I set very high standards for my child to get the correct answer when I gave her Listening Hanyu Pinyin test. From this, I gauge that my child is not confident when it comes to the four pitch. At least I have 1 more year to brush up Hanyu Pinyin for my child. I will be glad to hear more tips from other parents too regarding guiding the child to learn Hanyu Pinyin.

[hellokittyspore]

sembgal:

Thank you for your tips. Actually my child has been attending Hanyu Pinyin cum Speech and Drama class when she was in K1 and that was more play-based to me.This year in K2, she has been attending a more formal and structured preparatory Hanyu Pinyin class since Term 1 Week 1. I understand that kindergartens and child care centres are not allowed to teach Hanyu Pinyin due to MOE's advice. However, as this advice fell on deaf ears and some kindergartens and childcare centres went ahead to teach. To my understanding, if the child learns the wrong pronounciation, it may do more harm than good. So, there's enrichment centres to tap on for outsource of Hanyu Pinyin lessons. Preschools Chinese teachers should not be blamed as they have received instructions not to teach Hanyu Pinyin from MOE. Due to this reason which parents are unaware of, very often, parents will point the finger at the preschool for not teaching Hanyu Pinyin when the child moves on to Primary 1 and cannot cope with the Hanyu Pinyin syllabus. Thus, I set very high standards for my child to get the correct answer when I gave her Listening Hanyu Pinyin test. From this, I gauge that my child is not confident when it comes to the four pitch. At least I have 1 more year to brush up Hanyu Pinyin for my child. I will be glad to hear more tips from other parents too regarding guiding the child to learn Hanyu Pinyin.

In preschool, the kids are more focus on phonetic awareness and words blending. Hanyu pinyin only comes in during term 3 of k2 to avoid confusion in pronouciation with English and Chinese.

I agreed with moe advise in this aspect. By mid K2, preschooler would know how to read a simple English story book. From then, we can focus on hanyu pinyin.

[phtthp]

sembgal:

parents will point the finger at the preschool for not teaching Hanyu Pinyin when the child moves on to Primary 1 and cannot cope with the Hanyu Pinyin syllabus. Thus, I set very high standards for my child to get the correct answer when I gave her Listening Hanyu Pinyin test. From this, I gauge that my child is not confident when it comes to the four pitch. At least I have 1 more year to brush up Hanyu Pinyin for my child. I will be glad to hear more tips from other parents too regarding guiding the child to learn Hanyu Pinyin.

sembgal,
may i know which hanyu pin yin book Title you using, to give your K2 child \"Listening Hanyu pinyin test\" ? is it useful so far ?

[phtthp]

Sunnybunny:

MOE is right not to allo teaching of hanyu pinyin. Chinese words have so many characters and you can't sound it out by looking at the word like English. Hanyu pinyin is useful to learn words that you don't know. At preschool, it is more important for children to learn to recognize the word. If your child can recognize say 1500 words in preschool, is there a need to learn hanyu pinyin? And if your child knows hanyu pinyin and the passage contains hanyu pinyin, will your child read the passage using hanyu pinyin or read by looking at the words? Do you see our daily newspapers with hanyu pinyin?

but realistically, if you purchase a copy of P1 Chinese schools ' Term test / exam papers, you'll realize that the bulk of P1 Chinese first half of the year test children on han yu pin yin, a substantial amount !

If start to learn hypy in P1 Term 1, isn't it late if a child can't cope with hypy ? if child struggle with hypy, so will the parents under stress by then under time constraint trying to help their child cope.

because not every P1 child will find hypy a breeze. Some can manage, some can't. Not all can manage. For those who got issue, is a matter of when u want to face the stress. Face it earlier now (when you still got time), or face it later in P1 when u under time constraint, plus the fact that you still got 2 more other subjects to handle (english, maths).

[sembgal]

phtthp:

sembgal:

parents will point the finger at the preschool for not teaching Hanyu Pinyin when the child moves on to Primary 1 and cannot cope with the Hanyu Pinyin syllabus. Thus, I set very high standards for my child to get the correct answer when I gave her Listening Hanyu Pinyin test. From this, I gauge that my child is not confident when it comes to the four pitch. At least I have 1 more year to brush up Hanyu Pinyin for my child. I will be glad to hear more tips from other parents too regarding guiding the child to learn Hanyu Pinyin.

sembgal,
may i know which hanyu pin yin book Title you using, to give your K2 child \"Listening Hanyu pinyin test\" ? is it useful so far ?

I'm using A-Star Han Yu Pin Yin Magic Vol 1and 2 CD rom, 小一高级华文课文字词手册1A that comes with a CD Rom too, Pri 1 Chinese textbooks and workbooks for both normal and higher Chinese, Beijing enrichment centre HYPY notes, Berries HYPY notes as well as HYPY website. I sound a bit Kiasu but I have no choice as my child speaks in English only, tells me she is English people and not Chinese and she doesn't like Chinese, how can I not be worried as a mother. My only regret is I spoke to her purely in English since she was born. If I could reverse time, I would have chosen to communicate with her in both English and Mandarin.

[phtthp]

sembgal:

I'm using A-Star Han Yu Pin Yin Magic Vol 1and 2 CD rom, 小一高级华文课文字词手册1A that comes with a CD Rom too, Pri 1 Chinese textbooks and workbooks for both normal and higher Chinese, Beijing enrichment centre HYPY notes, Berries HYPY notes as well as HYPY website. I sound a bit Kiasu but I have no choice as my child speaks in English only, tells me she is English people and not Chinese and she doesn't like Chinese, how can I not be worried as a mother. My only regret is I spoke to her purely in English since she was born. If I could reverse time, I would have chosen to communicate with her in both English and Mandarin.

sembgal, Thanks for kind sharing.
is this the book with CD Rom ?
http://sapgrp.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=482

i had the same regret as you.
her Chinese pronounciation sounds like angmo, the tone all out.
I am having quite a difficult time teaching her han yu pin yin based on that Primary 1 Main Chinese textbook 1A, trying to correct her to pronounce the right tone for Chinese characters correctly.
If i can reverse time backward, i would have chosen to start communicating with her in Mandarin first. It's my fault.

[sembgal]

is this the book with CD Rom ?

http://sapgrp.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=482

Yes, that's the one. The primary 1 Higher Chinese (green) textbook and workbook remained unchanged. Only the normal Primary 1 Chinese (pink) textbook and workbook are the revised new version. I find the workbooks very colourful and is selling for less than $3 a book. A bargain indeed.

[schen]

Hi sembgal,


Is the textbook n work book you mentioned available at popular?