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      sinoboy
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      janet_lee88:
      hi sinoboy,

      since you have the opportunity to study overseas, make the most and best out of it...bcos not everyone has this chance...many are facing a tough and competitive environment here...but still have to plod.
      i wish you all the best in your future. be happy ok?
      I'll study hard if I'm given the opportunity. Higher chance of mixing with the right kind of wealthy smart people. Better still find a suitable ang mo partner and settle down there. Somehow folks with ang mo spouses looks more intelligent. Perhaps that's why so many of our local artistes aspire to have ang mo boyfriends. As for my overseas studies it's still a dream, but happy thinking about it. :sad:

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        sharonkhoo
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        sinoboy:
        I'll study hard if I'm given the opportunity. Higher chance of mixing with the right kind of wealthy smart people. Better still find a suitable ang mo partner and settle down there. Somehow folks with ang mo spouses looks more intelligent. Perhaps that's why so many of our local artistes aspire to have ang mo boyfriends. As for my overseas studies it's still a dream, but happy thinking about it. :sad:

        Do you genuinely hold these views? I am beginning to wonder if you are just making these statements to see what reactions you get. If you are serious, do go and find some wise people (in Singapore, no need to go overseas) and discuss these issues.

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          sinoboy
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          slmkhoo:
          sinoboy:

          I'll study hard if I'm given the opportunity. Higher chance of mixing with the right kind of wealthy smart people. Better still find a suitable ang mo partner and settle down there. Somehow folks with ang mo spouses looks more intelligent. Perhaps that's why so many of our local artistes aspire to have ang mo boyfriends. As for my overseas studies it's still a dream, but happy thinking about it. :sad:


          Do you genuinely hold these views? I am beginning to wonder if you are just making these statements to see what reactions you get. If you are serious, do go and find some wise people (in Singapore, no need to go overseas) and discuss these issues.

          Is it wrong to hold such views? I don't think that a view that increases my chances of survival and success in a competitive society like Singapore is wrong. Why are parents sending their kids overseas for education? Why not study in local uni? Why overseas scholarships are more valued than local ones (that is if local ones are considered scholarship)? Wonder what the wiser parents here would think. :scratchhead:

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            sharonkhoo
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            sinoboy:
            slmkhoo:

            [quote=\"sinoboy\"]I'll study hard if I'm given the opportunity. Higher chance of mixing with the right kind of wealthy smart people. Better still find a suitable ang mo partner and settle down there. Somehow folks with ang mo spouses looks more intelligent. Perhaps that's why so many of our local artistes aspire to have ang mo boyfriends. As for my overseas studies it's still a dream, but happy thinking about it. :sad:


            Do you genuinely hold these views? I am beginning to wonder if you are just making these statements to see what reactions you get. If you are serious, do go and find some wise people (in Singapore, no need to go overseas) and discuss these issues.

            Is it wrong to hold such views? I don't think that a view that increases my chances of survival and success in a competitive society like Singapore is wrong. Why are parents sending their kids overseas for education? Why not study in local uni? Why overseas scholarships are more valued than local ones (that is if local ones are considered scholarship)? Wonder what the wiser parents here would think. :scratchhead:[/quote]I wouldn't go so far as to say you are 'wrong' as you are entitled to have your views, but I certainly disagree. As a parent, if I do eventually let a child of mine go overseas to study, the reason will be to have wider exposure to the world, not to hang out with \"wealthy smart people\" of which there are plenty in Singapore already. Overseas scholarships are more valued probably because they have a higher dollar value and provide opportunities that most families can't afford. Your views MAY increase your chances of success and survival, but they are also likely to cause you to be overly stressed and dissatisfied with your life. You will miss out on a lot of happiness.

            And your view on people with ang moh spouses just leaves me speechless!

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              sinoboy
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              slmkhoo:
              sinoboy:

              [quote=\"slmkhoo\"]
              Do you genuinely hold these views? I am beginning to wonder if you are just making these statements to see what reactions you get. If you are serious, do go and find some wise people (in Singapore, no need to go overseas) and discuss these issues.

              Is it wrong to hold such views? I don't think that a view that increases my chances of survival and success in a competitive society like Singapore is wrong. Why are parents sending their kids overseas for education? Why not study in local uni? Why overseas scholarships are more valued than local ones (that is if local ones are considered scholarship)? Wonder what the wiser parents here would think. :scratchhead:

              I wouldn't go so far as to say you are 'wrong' as you are entitled to have your views, but I certainly disagree. As a parent, if I do eventually let a child of mine go overseas to study, the reason will be to have wider exposure to the world, not to hang out with \"wealthy smart people\" of which there are plenty in Singapore already. Overseas scholarships are more valued probably because they have a higher dollar value and provide opportunities that most families can't afford. Your views MAY increase your chances of success and survival, but they are also likely to cause you to be overly stressed and dissatisfied with your life. You will miss out on a lot of happiness.

              And your view on people with ang moh spouses just leaves me speechless![/quote]Well you should be thankful that most people have similar thoughts like mine and that your children didn't hang out with kids with little intelligence, wisdom and means like me. Could lower their chances of studying overseas and missing out on exposure and better career opportunities, unable to climb further up the social ladder and got to live with regret for a long time after that. :lightrod:

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                sharonkhoo
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                sinoboy:
                Well you should be thankful that most people have similar thoughts like mine and that your children didn't hang out with kids with little intelligence, wisdom and means like me. Could lower their chances of studying overseas and missing out on exposure and better career opportunities, unable to climb further up the social ladder and got to live with regret for a long time after that. :lightrod:

                I wonder how you know who my kids hang out with? I don't know the intelligence and wisdom of those friends, but I do know for a fact that many of them have limited means (like us!). I can assure you that my kids will not be able to study overseas at university level unless they get a scholarship, and at least one of them has doubts about even qualifying for university, let alone getting a scholarship. As a mother, I work at bolstering her confidence in her future, that even without a degree, she can find work she likes doing, live within her means, and life can be meaningful even if she doesn't climb the 'social ladder'. I see nothing to be thankful about if so many focus so much on career and social advancement as I think they are missing out on a lot of happiness and satisfaction. Still, you are as entitled to your views as I am to mine.

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                  keroppi
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                  slmkhoo:
                  As a mother, I work at bolstering her confidence in her future, that even without a degree, she can find work she likes doing, live within her means, and life can be meaningful even if she doesn't climb the 'social ladder'. I see nothing to be thankful about if so many focus so much on career and social advancement as I think they are missing out on a lot of happiness and satisfaction. Still, you are as entitled to your views as I am to mine.

                  :goodpost: :udawoman:

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                    sunflower
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                    One’s life experiences will usually shape how one views the world. Most women (esp mothers) usually view things differently from men. Remember? Men are from Mars and women are from Venus? 😉 Also, some SAHM are relatively sheltered and more nurturing in nature and hence, they may see things from a different perspective.


                    My guess is that sinoboy may be in an industry with many of such cases that he described and is seeing the reality of what’s actually happening, hence making him feel shortchanged and in denial.

                    All I can say is that it’s a big patch of 无明 (as explained by insider), which until it is removed, it’ll be difficult to see the light of day.

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                      Irrelevant
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                      slmkhoo:
                      I wonder how you know who my kids hang out with? I don't know the intelligence and wisdom of those friends, but I do know for a fact that many of them have limited means (like us!). I can assure you that my kids will not be able to study overseas at university level unless they get a scholarship, and at least one of them has doubts about even qualifying for university, let alone getting a scholarship. As a mother, I work at bolstering her confidence in her future, that even without a degree, she can find work she likes doing, live within her means, and life can be meaningful even if she doesn't climb the 'social ladder'. I see nothing to be thankful about if so many focus so much on career and social advancement as I think they are missing out on a lot of happiness and satisfaction. Still, you are as entitled to your views as I am to mine.

                      slmkhoo

                      Sinoboy certainly sounds like a bitter young man. I think that you are giving very good advice to the young man. :salute: Don't have to feel too upset with him. Maybe he is a better candidate for experiential learning? 😉 Hopefully, with the benefit of more exposure and life experience, he won't become a bitter old man.:nailbite:

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                        Imami
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                        After reading the pages 6-8, I have the following thoughts.


                        I hope my son will choose his friends wisely. Not necessary friends who are smarter, can be someone whom he needs to take care of (to build the nurture side of him). Not necessary friends who are richer, can be someone who is poor in the pockets but rich in the souls (so that he can discover that treasure the little that he has is as important as cherishing what he doesn’t have). Not necessary friends with "powerful backgrounds", I would not want my son to grow up like the money plants/vines (need to cling on to something to grow). If he is to be someone so small and non descript, i rather he be a happy 小草.

                        大风起 把头摇一摇
                        风停了 又挺直腰
                        大雨来 弯着背让雨浇
                        雨停了 抬起头 站直脚
                        不怕风 不怕雨 立志要长高
                        小草实在是并不小

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