DSA 2023
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Previously I am in a dilemma as my girl did not score well at all in prelims hence I was hesitating if we should continue to try for the IP school which she wants. She was far from the cut off of that school but was offered a WL.
I spoke to a number of parents and teachers including one who is from that IP school. In general from what I gather, it is only the parents who are more concern and is comparing the PSLE score and the school’s cut off. The teachers on the other hand care more about the student’s attitude. A number of friends were discouraging us from trying for the IP school due to my girl’s prelims score. On the other hand, all the teachers I spoke to (who know my girl personally) told her to go for it and emphasis on having the correct attitude upon entering the school. They as teachers have seen a lot, all kinds of students and it really doesn’t matter what PSLE score they had, once their attitude is wrong and they took the easy way out, the result most likely will be a dropout.
The DSA community are looking beyond the academic nowadays. Its the soft skills which they are looking for which will carry the students through the tough secondary school life, balancing both studies and the DSA talent area. -
Singapore education policies are driven by statistics. MOE will be looking at the numbers collected over the years to gauge the impacts of programs, including DSA. MOE could easily monitor those DSA students’ performance in school with COP to AL score gap, both small or big, and constantly optimising the program by tweaking, again with new statistics that may reflect changes in the ground/world situations from year to year . We should reasonably believe the overall soundness of policies.
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I think to trust in your instinct if you have a good relationship with your child and know how much efforts he/she has already put in vs the ability. There are kids who have already put in a lot of efforts and that’s commendable but you know the standard is at the certain point. So you would not want to push the kid too much. On the other hand, there are playful kids who have not been putting in much efforts all this while but woke up and you suddenly realise he/she has this potential. On the other spectrum, you have kids who over prepped all these years and therefore could do well but after you take away all the help in sec, they cannot perform as well anymore, coupled with the fact they were not given chance to even “fall behind” before in pri sch. Trust in your child and all the best!
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CoolSotongMom\" post_id=\"2119825\" time=\"1696164808\" user_id=\"196684:
Was thinking if I may overstep. Just sharing my view.
Previously I am in a dilemma as my girl did not score well at all in prelims hence I was hesitating if we should continue to try for the IP school which she wants. She was far from the cut off of that school but was offered a WL.
I spoke to a number of parents and teachers including one who is from that IP school. In general from what I gather, it is only the parents who are more concern and is comparing the PSLE score and the school's cut off. The teachers on the other hand care more about the student's attitude. A number of friends were discouraging us from trying for the IP school due to my girl's prelims score. On the other hand, all the teachers I spoke to (who know my girl personally) told her to go for it and emphasis on having the correct attitude upon entering the school. They as teachers have seen a lot, all kinds of students and it really doesn't matter what PSLE score they had, once their attitude is wrong and they took the easy way out, the result most likely will be a dropout.
The DSA community are looking beyond the academic nowadays. Its the soft skills which they are looking for which will carry the students through the tough secondary school life, balancing both studies and the DSA talent area.
Sch teachers will not know if the child has tuition for every subject or not. They can only know the child to a certain extent. Many educators see children in positive light.
Parents will know their child best. -
Hi can I check if the child enters into the secondary school via DSA O level track but does well enough in PSLE to achieve the IP track in the same school (school offers both IP and O level). Is it possible to appeal to transfer to IP track instead?
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00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2119863\" time=\"1696219736\" user_id=\"143605:
No worries, its good to open up for discussion.
Was thinking if I may overstep. Just sharing my view.
Sch teachers will not know if the child has tuition for every subject or not. They can only know the child to a certain extent. Many educators see children in positive light
Parents will know their child best.
Those teachers who I spoke to, mostly know my girl personally. This include a school teacher who is our direct neighbor, her tutor, a family friend who knows everything about my kids and she is teaching in a IP school. Her 3 years form teacher who is in close contact with us. My girl is committed to her talent which requires insane hours of training thus tuition is minimum. And this year, she went through a lot (including injury) which impact her performance in her talent as well as mental stress arising from it. Yes, Parents will know best but when the path our kids choose are not the normal or popular ones, we tend to doubt ourselves too.
Anyway, just sharing our journey for this DSA route.
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yayoi\" post_id=\"2119921\" time=\"1696304056\" user_id=\"57130:
Hi. You can appeal but I believe you are appealing along with everyone else that hit the IP COP. Whether there is any preference given to the DSA O Level kids is hard to say / probably depends on the school and the student (some schools have said that the DSA O Level kids will be high on the list, whatever that means). Unfortunately, there does not appear to be any ability to automatically \"upgrade\" based on the results. Hence, I think the ability to switch tracks is based on a) vacancy becoming available (probably not many spots) and b) the school selecting you to give the IP spot to.
Hi can I check if the child enters into the secondary school via DSA O level track but does well enough in PSLE to achieve the IP track in the same school (school offers both IP and O level). Is it possible to appeal to transfer to IP track instead?
Good luck and hope your kid enjoys the last few weeks of primary school (not sure if done today or still needs to sit for HMT tomorrow). -
SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2119929\" time=\"1696305058\" user_id=\"188234:
That was my initial thought too, but then i realized that the S1 posting appeals take place only on the day of posting results.
Hi. You can appeal but I believe you are appealing along with everyone else that hit the IP COP. Whether there is any preference given to the DSA O Level kids is hard to say / probably depends on the school and the student (some schools have said that the DSA O Level kids will be high on the list, whatever that means). Unfortunately, there does not appear to be any ability to automatically \"upgrade\" based on the results. Hence, I think the ability to switch tracks is based on a) vacancy becoming available (probably not many spots) and b) the school selecting you to give the IP spot to.
Good luck and hope your kid enjoys the last few weeks of primary school (not sure if done today or still needs to sit for HMT tomorrow).
For DSA students, upon PSLE results day, I guess u can go straight to the school to appeal on that day itself. No idea whether they will entertain u, but u can try. If successful, it will free up an Express seat for the S1 posting folks (as well as subtract from IP LOL). -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"2119930\" time=\"1696306006\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2119930 time=1696306006 user_id=53606]
I'm not 100% sure but I would think that any spots (IP and O) not taken by COs or converted WLs will be released to the S1 Posting process (for the respective track). Even if a school has more IP DSA capacity (below 30%-35% or whatever percentage they are comfortable with), I'm not sure they can \"take back\" a spot from the S1 process (and give a spot to the O track). I would think the vacancy numbers become fixed at the point CO/WL outcomes are finalized, but who knows.
That was my initial thought too, but then i realized that the S1 posting appeals take place only on the day of posting results.
For DSA students, upon PSLE results day, I guess u can go straight to the school to appeal on that day itself. No idea whether they will entertain u, but u can try. If successful, it will free up an Express seat for the S1 posting folks (as well as subtract from IP LOL).[/quote]
As for banging on the door on the day of PSLE results, I guess that is a good point. There were a few people last year that received and accepted O, although I think the IP COP was well within the expected range for the student. Nevertheless, I believe most of them gave little chance to the prospects of switching tracks (based on what was wrote above), and accepted O assuming that's where the child will be. I'm not sure how things turned out, and if you raise your hand in late-Nov or late-Dec (if trying to switch tracks). -
I think I saw some news that this year DSA application was higher compared to last year. So is the DSA intake for those IP schools higher than last year? Will this impact the cutoff points to even lower for the few limited vacancies now?
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