7 New IP schools

[jtoh]

verykiasu2010:

jtoh:

[quote=\"verykiasu2010\"]other potentials :


Commonwealth, Crescent Girls, St Margaret's .....

anyone else gone autonomous recently ?

Unlkely. Remember IP schools that lead up to A levels are for the top few percent of students who are deemed to have been able to make it to JC regardless. Not all students in Commonwealth, Crescent and St Margarets fall under that category.

now it may be more than the top few percents

existing 11 IP schools, each has about 450 sec 1 intakes = 4950, against a cohort size of say 40,000, it is already 12.4%.......(ok, given NJC,NUSH may not be up to 450 yet)


this additional 7 IP schools could be the result of the outcry to have more people wanting to get into IP but did not get reduced weightage in MT hence lower t-score .............[/quote]The IP through train was created so those \"who are clearly university-bound can benefit from spending the last four years of their upper secondary/ JC education from Secondary Three to JC Two engaging in broader learning experiences.\" (quoted from MOE).

I don't think MOE will change the tenet of IP to allow students who are not \"clearly University bound\" to partake in the IP programme. Of course with the success of the pioneer batch of IP students, MOE is more confident about opening up the opportunity to more students and hence the next level of top percentage of students will now be eligible. But they would still have to be clearly able and University bound. Hence they would still be selective about the standard of school and students selected for the programme.

UNLESS: For these new IP schools, not everyone in it will enjoy IP status. Only the top students will enjoy it while the rest progress on the O level route.

[daisyt]

Immediately my first comment to dd was \"you all better buck up & produce good A lvl results, 7 more IP schools competing\". I know its wrong to have this thinking but it just come tomy mind naturally lor. :oops:


And when PM mentioned they are not tring to make things tough for the young generation but preparing them for crises, dd was rolling eyes. :roll:

[Brenda10]

daisyt:

Immediately my first comment to dd was \"you all better buck up & produce good A lvl results, 7 more IP schools competing\". I know its wrong to have this thinking but it just come tomy mind naturally lor. :oops:


And when PM mentioned they are not tring to make things tough for the young generation but preparing them for crises, dd was rolling eyes. :roll:

I think it would be very much depend on the implementation is to start with the new batch of PSLE students or start with those secondary students (meet the requirement) whose school going to be the 7 IP schools.

[blesspring]

When PM talked talked about 7 new IP schools last night, these schools came to my mind.


Methodist Girls School
St Nicholas
Catholic High
Victoria Secondary
Cedar Girls or Crescent Girls (maybe both)

These are the O level Band 1 schools with only express stream with proven good results.

I believe it will be schools that have no normal stream.

[Vanilla Cake]

verykiasu2010:

existing 11 IP schools, each has about 450 sec 1 intakes = 4950, against a cohort size of say 40,000, it is already 12.4%.......(ok, given NJC,NUSH may not be up to 450 yet)


this additional 7 IP schools could be the result of the outcry to have more people wanting to get into IP but did not get reduced weightage in MT hence lower t-score .............

The http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/admissions/secondary-one-posting/general-information/programmes/integrated-programmes/ under MOE are:

1. Anglo-Chinese School (Independent) \t
2. Dunman High School \t
3. Hwa Chong Institution
4. Nanyang Girls’ High School
5. National Junior College
6. Raffles Girls’ School (Sec)
7. Raffles Institution
8. River Valley High School
9. NUS High School of Mathematics and Science
10. Temasek Junior College
11. Victoria Junior College

Will the additional of 7 IP schools under MOE reduce the cut-off points for admission into these existing 11 IP schools under MOE in time to come?
Other potential schools not mentioned so far in this thread:

1. http://www.anglicanhigh.moe.edu.sg/
2. http://www.nanchiauhigh.moe.edu.sg/

http://www.sota.edu.sg/ and http://www.sportsschool.edu.sg/ are also IP schools with 'O' level tracks but not under MOE. Correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks.

VC's mum

[keroppi]

blesspring:

These are the O level Band 1 schools with only express stream with proven good results.

If I am not wrong, this is one of the criteria for a school to be selected for IP. I remembered this mentioned in one of the talks I attended.

[powershengyang]

There should not even be new IP schools. IP is for students who are predicted to pass "O" levels with flying colours. This lets them use the time for studying to do more meaningful stuff. Schools like neighbourhood schools etc etc should not even have IP, if you have an average of B4 for the majority of th students in the school, they should not deserve the IP status. Having IP status for too many schools will result in a mass drop in the standard of education in singapore.


If the students are admitted into JC and they fail "A" levels, their highest education standard would be at PSLE level, causing them to lose out. "O" levels are there to help students who cannot or may not pass the "A" levels, not to burden them.

[keroppi]

powershengyang:

If the students are admitted into JC and they fail \"A\" levels, their highest education standard would be at PSLE level, causing them to lose out. \"O\" levels are there to help students who cannot or may not pass the \"O\" levels, not to burden them.

From the newspaper report, these new IP schools will offer both IP and O level curriculums. In fact, in schools like ACSI, students' progressed are monitored. Those found to not doing well in IB will be asked to do the O levels route in year 3 and vice versa (those doing well will be promoted to IB route). So I think it will be the same for these new IP schools. Frankly I am not worried about the students not doing well as a result.

[jtoh]

Vanilla Cake:

Will the additional of 7 IP schools under MOE reduce the cut-off points for admission into these existing 11 IP schools under MOE in time to come?
Other potential schools not mentioned so far in this thread:



VC's mum

I don't think the addition of the new IP schools will reduce the COP for admission to the existing 11 IP schools, at least not for the top few schools like RI, RGS, HCI, NYGH... These have proven track records especially with overseas Universities. I see the new 7 IPs as more like 2nd tier IP schools. So if there's any dilution in COP for IP schools, they're more likely for the less popular existing IP schools.

[jtoh]

Straits Times says likely schools include Cedar Girls and Victoria School. SJI also likely.