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    Teach Less, Learn More

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    • J Offline
      janet88
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      sleepy:
      janet_lee88:

      Compo writing is a skill. Teachers talk a lot, but they don't know how to teach students to write...and yet parents don't know how to coach.

      I second that. I asked dd how her English teacher teach creative writing in school. She said teacher gave them a few phrases, asked them to think of more phrases themselves. That's IT :roll:
      So now, tearing my hair out trying to coach my dd to write at home.

      Hey, that is exactly what is happening in my son's class. Teacher gave them a picture, some phrases, make a draft. That's about it.
      I literally pulled my hair out helping my son with a compo last week...title given was 'Grandma saved the day'...no helping words, scenario or plot given.

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        janet88
        last edited by

        smurf:
        Teach less, learn more? Total Craps.


        End up, students go to enrichment centers, tuition,Projects done by parents etc. If parents dun do assignments, then will the effort of the students be awarded??
        I have to send my son for creative writing class bcos his teacher doesn't teach them to write. Enrichment centres enjoy good biz bcos of the poor teaching system in schools.
        When I first saw 'teach less, learn more'...I felt that something was just not right.

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          Chenonceau
          last edited by

          Sleepy, Smurf and Janetโ€ฆ I so agree with all of you. I am so glad some people understand my misery.

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            Chenonceau
            last edited by

            Actually, to teach such mental SKILLS. Small group coaching is essential. Given the syllabus, you need a lecture tutorial system where big groups are exposed to a short theory talk through and then tutors take over for skills practice.


            That is what is happening now when parents coach kids after school or engage tutors to do so. School does the lecture. Parents and tutors do the skills practice after school. If that is so, they should shorten school hours so we have more time for practice. To go to school to listen to 6 hours of lecture makes no sense.

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              cantbearit2
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              Chenonceau:
              Actually, to teach such mental SKILLS. Small group coaching is essential. Given the syllabus, you need a lecture tutorial system where big groups are exposed to a short theory talk through and then tutors take over for skills practice.


              That is what is happening now when parents coach kids after school or engage tutors to do so. School does the lecture. Parents and tutors do the skills practice after school. If that is so, they should shorten school hours so we have more time for practice. To go to school to listen to 6 hours of lecture makes no sense.
              :goodpost:

              My DD is in P1 & oredi can feel the stress. Can't imagine her without those enrichment classes. Her sch stream them into diff MT class on the 2nd week of sch. :shock:

              Sad to hear some kids who din noe HYPY was banded in 1 class. Imagine the emotions of a kiddo who juz started formal education. ๐Ÿ˜ž Guess these r the less privileged kids. Not b'cos they r not smart but juz no outside enrichment.

              I can't agree wif our current MOE's \"teach less to learn more\" way. Juz dun c a light at the end of the tunnel.

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                pixiedust
                last edited by

                I guess they get only 3-4hrs 'lectures' per day at best ? but still a lot for children 10-12 years old. They have assembly, PE, HE,A&C, Social stuides and whatnots. Chinese : 1hr+ per day...and we have 80% of cohort scoring A and A* at PSLE ?!


                No wonder we have a blooming tution industry - the Tution Nation. Also, I really want to get my hands on some Popular shares... :lol: Projects - none of the skills required for projects are taught or even briefed to the pupils.

                We have a seriously crazy system.

                2 years ago MOE hired 3000 new teachers and the future vision is to have smaller class size and teacher aide. Meanwhile, they dish out these 'teach less, learn more', no exams till P2 SA2, more weightage on oral ......etc.

                For us, we just want to go through the system as best as we can now.
                Good luck to future generations !

                Btw, is it as crazy or worse in Secondary school ? ๐Ÿ˜

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                  smurf
                  last edited by

                  The only way to kill this pattern (tuitioning) is to DO NOT follow the herd. Let your child learns at his or her own pace. But do it at own risk. Because others still will follow herd.


                  Sickening right.

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                    markfch
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                    janet_lee88:

                    I have to send my son for creative writing class bcos his teacher doesn't teach them to write. Enrichment centres enjoy good biz bcos of the poor teaching system in schools.
                    When I first saw 'teach less, learn more'...I felt that something was just not right.
                    Come on Janet, MOE made a mistake, but it's a spelling mistake.

                    It's actually supposed to be 'Teach less, earn more'.

                    The schs teach less .......... And the tuition ctrs earn more. Get it, get it! :lol:

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                      Brenda10
                      last edited by

                      Iโ€™m also quite upset about the compo. writing. I cannot understand the marks in P5/P6 became 40 marks and yet the exposure is very little.


                      As of today, the following is the output of attending external class vs school:

                      CL compo, external is 14 and school is 5.
                      EL Compo. external is 15 and school is 5

                      ๐Ÿ˜ž

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                        Chenonceau
                        last edited by

                        Brenda10:
                        Iโ€™m also quite upset about the compo. writing. I cannot understand the marks in P5/P6 became 40 marks and yet the exposure is very little.


                        As of today, the following is the output of attending external class vs school:

                        CL compo, external is 14 and school is 5.
                        EL Compo. external is 15 and school is 5

                        ๐Ÿ˜ž
                        I don't quite get you. You mean the same compo marked by external is 14 and by school is 5? Or you mean that before external classes your child scored 5 and after, she scored 14?

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