pirate:Don't forget Horrible Science too.[/quote]Tell you a secret, real GEP never read those books in so called \"GEP\" rec list. LOLzac's mum:[quote=\"nms1\"]My son is currently in P4. He passed round 1 of GEP screening last year but didn't get through the 2nd round. We subsequently discovered that he does test in the gifted range, in particular in maths & science related areas. Are there any books used by GEP that might be useful for him to expand his knowledge and stop his never-ending refrain of \"I'm bored\".
I recommend the \"Murderous Maths\" series of books as fun reading material.
And GEP is a joke. There is a so called Creative Writing Programme organized by this GEP branch every yeasr. My first child two years ago failed to be selected. This year my second child used the same essay to get selected.
@Brando glad to hear that the medication is working well for your son and the amazing turnaround! Did you managed to obtain accommodations from the GEP program for your son’s twice exceptionality?
We have just received the full neuropsychological report and still trying to figure how we should approach the school and MOE for accommodations for our son’s giftedness and dyslexia…should we just send the entire neuropsychological report to the school principal? 😅
GEP 2011 - Screening & Selection
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ksi:
I know of a few students who were doing pretty well (in first class of cohort) from P1 - P3, and they are those who will con't to do well in mainstream, but alas, when they 'luckily' got into GEP, they suffer low self-esteem as they become the most struggling in their GEP cohort. Definitely not something that the parents and kid had imagined. Whether they would be DSAed into their dreamschool later on, I believe, for a better childhood, they should be better off in mainstream.jtoh:
If you get in, you get in. If you don't, you don't.
This is the healthy mindset.
Be careful what you wish for. -
chamonix:
definitely not a loss to not want to take the test. there are many routes to success (and many definitions too), so long one has the correct mindset and attitude.jedamum:
but to forgo GEP testing to focus on SA2 prep...how many GEP testing can one experience in a lifetime?
You mean not taking the tests, right? Actually, not many singaporean kids residing overseas would fly back for the GEP tests. It's not something one must experience.
A friend's brother (in his twenties now) chose to forgo the GEP programme. He did very well in mainstream and graduated from a renowned university in UK. A GEPPER (in his thirties now) opted not to attend university and joined the commercial airline as a pilot. Both are very happy with their lives.
but just because want to prepare SA and forgo the test...it is like tooalready.
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Picolo:
I know of a few students who were doing pretty well (in first class of cohort) from P1 - P3, and they are those who will con't to do well in mainstream, but alas, when they 'luckily' got into GEP, they suffer low self-esteem as they become the most struggling in their GEP cohort. Definitely not something that the parents and kid had imagined. Whether they would be DSAed into their dreamschool later on, I believe, for a better childhood, they should be better off in mainstream.ksi:
[quote=\"jtoh\"] If you get in, you get in. If you don't, you don't.
This is the healthy mindset.
Be careful what you wish for.[/quote]but the thing is, this is like a 'gamble'. some say we know our kids capabilities best; some said that we should trust our kids to surprise us with their abilities. then how? for those not specifically/obviously gifted and then got thru 2nd round, how? throw a dice? leap of faith?
all those who opt to take up should have a ready option to transfer back to mainstream. -
jedamum:
Err... Actually I don't think my cousin told her dd to forgo the GEP tests just to prepare for SA2 lah (the first test was in August rite?). She said she prefers \"big fish small pond\", prefers her daughter to do well academically in an above average school and have positive self-esteem, rather than risk the possibility of being the average/bottom in a GEP cohort and lose self-esteem... So the SA2 results example she gave, I presume, was to make the point that her decision was right anyways...
definitely not a loss to not want to take the test. there are many routes to success (and many definitions too), so long one has the correct mindset and attitude.
but just because want to prepare SA and forgo the test...it is like tooalready.
Well... I think there has been a lot of debate about whether big-fish-small-pond is better or small-fish-big-pond better... So my cousin is one who subscribes to the former.... -
Judging from what’s happening these 2 years,ie. increasingly, bright students can’t cope with GEP programmes, excessive focus on GEP as if it’s the new DSA to choiced sec schools, I agree that it really seems like a ‘gamble’ like what you say.
The backup plan to go back to mainstream is a very weak one, by then, people would have lablelled the child 'the child who cannot make it. Sad.
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mommyNg:
I know what you mean, usually people would be very surprised why the kids opt out, and when asked by the curious folks, the kids will just add on ' oh... so that I have more time to study for SA2... ' blar blar blar in order to give a 'valid' answer... actually, they are just very decisive and have long decided not to take part in the GEP chase...
Err... Actually I don't think my cousin told her dd to forgo the GEP tests just to prepare for SA2 lah (the first test was in August rite?). She said she prefers \"big fish small pond\", prefers her daughter to do well academically in an above average school and have positive self-esteem, rather than risk the possibility of being the average/bottom in a GEP cohort and lose self-esteem... So the SA2 results example she gave, I presume, was to make the point that her decision was right anyways...jedamum:
definitely not a loss to not want to take the test. there are many routes to success (and many definitions too), so long one has the correct mindset and attitude.
but just because want to prepare SA and forgo the test...it is like tooalready.
Well... I think there has been a lot of debate about whether big-fish-small-pond is better or small-fish-big-pond better... So my cousin is one who subscribes to the former.... -
Picolo:
BINGO!! :hi5:
I know what you mean, usually people would be very surprised why the kids opt out, and when asked by the curious folks, the kids will just add on ' oh... so that I have more time to study for SA2... ' blar blar blar in order to give a 'valid' answer... actually, they are just very decisive and have long decided not to take part in the GEP chase... -
mommyNg:
:hi5: :celebrate:
BINGO!! :hi5:Picolo:
I know what you mean, usually people would be very surprised why the kids opt out, and when asked by the curious folks, the kids will just add on ' oh... so that I have more time to study for SA2... ' blar blar blar in order to give a 'valid' answer... actually, they are just very decisive and have long decided not to take part in the GEP chase... -
mommyNg:
BINGO BINGO.
BINGO!! :hi5:Picolo:
I know what you mean, usually people would be very surprised why the kids opt out, and when asked by the curious folks, the kids will just add on ' oh... so that I have more time to study for SA2... ' blar blar blar in order to give a 'valid' answer... actually, they are just very decisive and have long decided not to take part in the GEP chase... -
what’s there to chase? if a child is not gifted, all the tuition in the world will not make them gifted, no? if they get it then good for them. i think those who don’t cope after getting in probably forced the issue and aren’t really gifted, just trained to answer the GEP questions.
just a thought.
on another issue - if a child is selected for GEP and transfers to a new school then realizes he/she cannot cope and decide not to pursue, do they have to go back to their original school or can they join the mainstream in the new school?