TC’s computer & financial system
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[quote=\"concern2\"]Wah seh! Interesting move!
WP withdraws motion to debate town council issue in Parliament
(source: http://www.asiaone.com/News/Latest+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20130110-394555.html)
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Despite various media statements by AIM and PAP representatives, critical questions remained unanswered, which led me to fiie an adjournment motion on 8 January 2013 on safeguarding the public interest in Town Council management, scheduled for the next Parliamentary sitting.
On the evening of 8 January 2013, the Prime Minister indicated in a statement that he had directed the Ministry of National Development to conduct a broad-based review of the fundamenta! nature of town councils and also to investigate the AIM transaction.....
From this episode, it is clear that to have an Alternative Voice in Parliament does make a difference - to keep our Government on the toe and to ensure Transparency / Accountability. Personally, I think none of the opponents have enough expertise to tackle the global/national issues facing us yet... but over time hopefully more-able Singaporeans will step forward / take personal interest of our Nation's well being. Moving away this notion of equating a political party to a government... fundamentally is \"flaw\". -
3Boys:
What forming the core group of Singaporeans will be those born after 1965 moving forward. Most of us are well-educated / well-informed, we want to have more freedom to view our opinions - Not to be talked down without any good discussions / debates like in the past. Our system is more like a \"hybrid\" democracy/authoritarian as pointed out. I think it served us well in the past when quick decisions can be made.
....Town Council is one thing. How about People's Association? How about PAP Community Foundation?pirate:
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The PAP should realize that members of Generation X, and subsequent generations, grew up and were educated here after 1965. We had been (on the whole) brought up by the education system put in place by the PAP to believe that integrity, good governance and transparency are to be expected from our public officials. And the demographics shift more towards this every year. This is the new middle ground.
Many of us may not necessarily disagree with much of the PAP's policies...
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It's like the People's Liberation Army in China. It technically reports to the Communist Party, not the state....
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However, to effect the change now (like last GE), firstly I would think it is imperative for the future of Singapore - to have credible Alternative Voices (not so much to upset the functioning of the effective Government) but rather to act as a passenger to slap the driver when he is asleep sometimes.
Besides, in order for all Singaporeans to have a chance to vote, to exercise our choice - we need opponents otherwise it will be just another \"walk-over\". Our concerns won't be taken seriously or on their radar screen at all.
Certainly, there must be a clear separation between what is state-owned & party-owned to ensure Above-the-board competitions at all times - to provide level playing field (of course, PAP is the incumbent & have the first mover advantage). Only by acting collectively can we change this entrenched behavior. It takes time, I believe we can achieve it.
PAP must have confidence / trust that majority of Singaporeans are sensible and love our country. -
concern2:
More than interesting, wld say its a gud counter move by SL after PM's announcement to review d TC-AIM tender/transaction.Wah seh! Interesting move!
WP withdraws motion to debate town council issue in Parliament
Don't recall PM said 'investigate', only review by MND.
- 2 quite different thing.
d terms of reference for d review hv been carefully crafted in his statement.
SL has conveniently included investigation in her statement. Let's see how far or deep dis will go. -
Way2GO:
Yup! Noticed that too and was wondering... :scratchhead:
More than interesting, wld say its a gud counter move by SL after PM's announcement to review d TC-AIM tender/transaction.concern2:
Wah seh! Interesting move!
WP withdraws motion to debate town council issue in Parliament
Don't recall PM said 'investigate', only review by MND.
- 2 quite different thing.
d terms of reference for d review hv been carefully crafted in his statement.
SL has conveniently included investigation in her statement. Let's see how far or deep dis will go. -
TCS DEVELOP THE SOFTWARE FOR $5M BEFORE SELLING TO AIM FOR $140K?
http://therealsingapore.com/content/tcs-develop-software-5m-selling-aim-140k -
raysusan:
Software systems depreciate in values over time. Furthermore this system I believe it is very customised for the TC used and unlikely to have any reused value.TCS DEVELOP THE SOFTWARE FOR $5M BEFORE SELLING TO AIM FOR $140K?
http://therealsingapore.com/content/tcs-develop-software-5m-selling-aim-140k -
http://www.razor.tv/site/servlet/segment/main/news/87414.html
What Sylvia Lim said makes lots of sense from my perspective. We should become vigilant citizens to protect our properties & our children's future. -
LINKEDIN USER REMOVES SALES INFO OF NCS’ DEAL WITH PAP TCS
Within 24 hours of online social media reporting of NCS’ deal with PAP Town Councils, extracted from the CV of an ex-NCS Deputy Director, Jonathan Tan, some of the information on Mr Tan’s CV appears to have been removed.
Mr Tan’s original CV can be found at this URL on LinkedIn, a social networking site for job seekers and business professionals:
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jonathan-tan/23/3a4/203
However, it appears that the original URL has now been redirected to a new link:
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/palo-alto-networks-next-generation-firewall/23/3a4/203
Paid users can access the detailed information inside the link.
Originally, the following information was listed on Mr Tan’s CV as of 22 Jan:
http://therealsingapore.com/content/linkedin-user-removes-sales-info-ncs%E2%80%99-deal-pap-tcs -
3Boys:
They are very uncomfortable with accusations of conflicts-of-interest, which there are, in many many aspects of public life. Their defence, over the years, has been a stout defence that it's not so much processes and institutions that protect against abuse of conflicts-of-interests, but rather, having the right people in place NOT to abuse it.
Interesting indeed, the way you've put it.concern2:
[quote=\"3Boys\"]
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But it calls into question the whole ETHOS of how the MIW embed themselves in the governing of Singapore.
Town Council is one thing. How about People's Association? How about PAP Community Foundation?
It's like the People's Liberation Army in China. It technically reports to the Communist Party, not the state.
This state of mind and being is much much harder to reconcile in the new world, which is why they have taken so long, which so much scrutiny, before something is being done.
Not sure how this will go honestly. The PAP, IMO, is not stalling for the sake of stalling. It's a matter of their entire ethos of being enveloped in the running of the country, and I think they are still trying to work that out.
Hence my prior example of Mdm Ho Ching. We are (well, some are) comfortable with her appointment, but why?
It is also the reason why I refuse to be hard on the MIW in this instance.
People take it at face value that they are trying to obfuscate the AIM issue. It's not so much that, IMO, than trying to stay true to a political philosophy that is at odds with the current environment.[/quote]
Am just chuckling to myself now that this is being slung around in parliament.
http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2013/05/the-fallout-from-aim-in-the-peoples-interest/
http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2013/05/the-parliament-is-not-a-place-to-settle-old-political-scores-by-calling-a-truce/
Form the very beginning I was pretty sure that WP didn't have a real axe to grind with the PAP on this issue, but only that they had to make a public 'stand' when it surfaced in the public blogosphere.
Are such perceived 'conflicts-of-interest' acceptable to the general public these days? Probably not.
But it was how these things were in the past, it's not as if there was any financial malfeasance. TCs are political beasts, that should change, but not sure why people should be so surprised or kick up a fuss about how they are, when it is plain and obvious. -
3Boys:
Guess it's just blatant disappointment on the realization that
But it was how these things were in the past, it's not as if there was any financial malfeasance. TCs are political beasts, that should change, but not sure why people should be so surprised or kick up a fuss about how they are, when it is plain and obvious.
\"Whiter than white\" is \"not so white\" after all......
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