IP vs O level
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Just FYI, we are covering some of the sec 3 work in sec 1.
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As a student taking my PSLE this year,my parents prefer the O Level route,but i rather go for IP.My dad is okay with it,but my mom needs more convincing.
It is because for IP, you only need to take A Levels,which means if you do badly for A Levels,you wont have a certificate. Whereas, if you take O Levels then take A levels,you at least have a certificate.
It is just my opinion for i do not entertain nor like the idea of rushing through 4 years of secondary school education in less then 3.5 years. I wouldn’t want to live a fast-paced life of studying for O Levels and then A Levels. If i can get into IP, then i would be able to do more projects,learn more and have a fun secondary school life at my own comfortable, luxurious pace.
The benefits of IP is that you don’t just secure a place for your secondary education,you secure a place for your JC education too,without having to fight for that 3 points to get into top JCs like HCJC and RJC.
This is just my 2cts worth though. -
insider:
Hi insider, there is still opportunity for IP to get into poly. This is the extract from SP website on the admission page.
For me, I'll rather choose the non-IP way coz IP sort of will cut off the poly route completely. (my daughter can go IP but I advised her no coz of this reason and true enough now she is in poly...)
http://www.sp.edu.sg/wps/portal/vp-spws/spws.fsu.international.admissions#7
Integrated Programmes (including IB programmes in Singapore School system only)
Students from Integrated Programme (IP) Schools in Singapore who have completed the equivalent of Sec 4 as well as those who have graduated from IP schools can be considered for admission. Eligibility is similar to GCE 'O' level (please refer to Full-time Courses). Eligible candidates will be assessed based on their school performance, recommendations, tests and/or interviews.
For those who have completed the International Baccalaureate Diploma, the entry requirements are: For English, a grade 4 (1st Lang) or 5 (2nd Lang) is required except for Media & Communication and Applied Drama & Psychology courses where a grade 5 (1st Lang) or 6 (2nd Lang) is required; Maths and Relevant Subject* requires a minimum grade of 5. The Overall Aggregate should be at least 22 (based on 5 subjects including English, Maths & Relevant Subject).
Application is closed for the 2010 session.
Applicants may apply upon the release of the GCE 'O' level results in Jan 2010 (lasts for 5 calendar days). The actual dates will be announced later. Please apply here: Full-time Application. (This is only for those from Integrated Programmes in the Singapore School system).
For those with IB from Singapore Schools whose results will be released in early Jan, the application period coincides with that of the JAE (opens the day of GCE 'O' level results release and lasts for 5 calendar days). Application is online at this site: Full-time Application. -
An interesting news article I have found, would like to share.
They left IP for poly.
http://www.asiaone.com/News/Education/Story/A1Story20100412-209764.html -
From Nee Ann Poly website
http://www.np.edu.sg/admissions/apply/Pages/dae.aspx
Applicants who have completed Integrated Programme (IP) Year 4 may be considered for admission to 3-year diploma courses based on their IP Year 4 results. Applicants who have completed Year 6 of the IP programme and obtained either a GCE 'A' level qualification or an IB Diploma may be considered for direct entry to Year 2 of selected diploma courses -
livewith_vanilla:
this is a very bad misconception and myth that was propagated among the older generation. Please tell your parents that there is the possibility of retaking a lvl should a student happen to not do well for a lvl. Besides in today's society having just an o lvl cert is almost as good as having a lousy a lvl cert.As a student taking my PSLE this year,my parents prefer the O Level route,but i rather go for IP.My dad is okay with it,but my mom needs more convincing.
It is because for IP, you only need to take A Levels,which means if you do badly for A Levels,you wont have a certificate. Whereas, if you take O Levels then take A levels,you at least have a certificate.
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insider:
some of the the IP schools still have an 'O' Level class for those kids who do not perform during their year 1 to 4 ..... and if they do well enough in the 'O' Level, they are accepted back into Year 5 in the IP program....
Some kids may get lost in the middle of their study journey (it can be in the middle of their IP / JC). This O level cert will enable them to pursue a diploma / a degree later when they wake up. 6 years of IP seem a bit 'far' to some kids. Having said that, I really have no idea if a child stops at the 4th year of their IP journey, what is the 'level' that he actually will be classified as. My daughter told me Dunman students have a choice of whether want to go IP or take O levels. She has friends on IP but still sign up for O level exams... -
CoffeeCat:
I agree with your first sentence.now my mom seems to think i'm just following my friend.Sighs....have to get her to come back to the 21st Century!
this is a very bad misconception and myth that was propagated among the older generation. Please tell your parents that there is the possibility of retaking a lvl should a student happen to not do well for a lvl. Besides in today's society having just an o lvl cert is almost as good as having a lousy a lvl cert.livewith_vanilla:
As a student taking my PSLE this year,my parents prefer the O Level route,but i rather go for IP.My dad is okay with it,but my mom needs more convincing.
It is because for IP, you only need to take A Levels,which means if you do badly for A Levels,you wont have a certificate. Whereas, if you take O Levels then take A levels,you at least have a certificate.
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livewith_vanilla:
Correction: They aren't HCJC and RJC anymore, they're HCI (college) and RI (JC)As a student taking my PSLE this year,my parents prefer the O Level route,but i rather go for IP.My dad is okay with it,but my mom needs more convincing.
It is because for IP, you only need to take A Levels,which means if you do badly for A Levels,you wont have a certificate. Whereas, if you take O Levels then take A levels,you at least have a certificate.
It is just my opinion for i do not entertain nor like the idea of rushing through 4 years of secondary school education in less then 3.5 years. I wouldn't want to live a fast-paced life of studying for O Levels and then A Levels. If i can get into IP, then i would be able to do more projects,learn more and have a fun secondary school life at my own comfortable, luxurious pace.
The benefits of IP is that you don't just secure a place for your secondary education,you secure a place for your JC education too,without having to fight for that 3 points to get into top JCs like HCJC and RJC.
This is just my 2cts worth though. -
O level might be better…
There is less stress and the people seem happier…
There are also fewer projects and longer holidays
In addition, they also have opportunities to explore many things
IP is very stressful. There are projects almost every night and we only sleep past midnight everyday. I don’t know about the other IP schools but i now Cedar VCA IP is like this. There are projects every week and we learn things that are only taught in JC.
In Cedar IP, subjects such as Home Economics and D&T are also not taught. Instead, we are taught things such as Design Thinking and Financial Literacy which are quite irrelevant. -
Look at the other good points of IP…u gals have a cut above the rest. U gals belong to the elite group of students. Cheer up!
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isabellalalok-unibellama:
Hmmm...not that my boy is exceptionally bright (he prolly couldn't get into his school via S1) but he doesn't seem stressed to me leh!O level might be better...
There is less stress and the people seem happier...
There are also fewer projects and longer holidays
In addition, they also have opportunities to explore many things
IP is very stressful. There are projects almost every night and we only sleep past midnight everyday. I don't know about the other IP schools but i now Cedar VCA IP is like this. There are projects every week and we learn things that are only taught in JC.
In Cedar IP, subjects such as Home Economics and D&T are also not taught. Instead, we are taught things such as Design Thinking and Financial Literacy which are quite irrelevant.
But I do agree with you that you shouldn't force yourself to take up subjects which u do not like. IP may not fit everyone. -
isabellalalok-unibellama:
Hi I am from VCA too, so I was shortlisted to go for the IP and there's interviews this Thurs. Would you mind sharing with me about the curriculum? Is there more emphasis on projects or is there more emphasis on pen and paper? And please share with me the advantages and disadvantages of IP.O level might be better...
There is less stress and the people seem happier...
There are also fewer projects and longer holidays
In addition, they also have opportunities to explore many things
IP is very stressful. There are projects almost every night and we only sleep past midnight everyday. I don't know about the other IP schools but i now Cedar VCA IP is like this. There are projects every week and we learn things that are only taught in JC.
In Cedar IP, subjects such as Home Economics and D&T are also not taught. Instead, we are taught things such as Design Thinking and Financial Literacy which are quite irrelevant.
I would really appreciate your answer, I've been stressing out over this IP for 1 week now.... :?: -
With the 7 new schools introducing IP is there any chance of IP COP score getting lower?
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Both same to me!!!
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isabellalalok-unibellama:
I think the IP system in different IP school will be different too. In RGS, there is Home economics and D&T, under the aesthetics modules, which rotates about 7-10 sessions. There are still quite a handful of projects, but it's not weekly and it's planned carefully from the start of the year. We do a lot of self-learning, like there are no more stacks of notes to study. There are also no practice papers or revision.O level might be better...
There is less stress and the people seem happier...
There are also fewer projects and longer holidays
In addition, they also have opportunities to explore many things
IP is very stressful. There are projects almost every night and we only sleep past midnight everyday. I don't know about the other IP schools but i now Cedar VCA IP is like this. There are projects every week and we learn things that are only taught in JC.
In Cedar IP, subjects such as Home Economics and D&T are also not taught. Instead, we are taught things such as Design Thinking and Financial Literacy which are quite irrelevant.
IP may not suit those who are not independent learners, i think. -
not sure if its right to post here, but can anyone summarise for me:
which IP sch hv dual path ie O lvl and IP path
wat is the mean score aggregate required to stay on that sch’s IP path or even tat sch if theres no O lvl path?
is it ev IP sch offer different subjects? -
What are the schools offering IP?
I only know a few:
-RGS
-TJC
-NJC
-RI
-HCI
-RVHS(River Valley High School)
-DHS
-Cedar Girls Sec
-Nanyang Girls High
-St Nicholas
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List on MOE website:
http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/seconda ... programme/ -
Xheyx, are you considering IP program ending 6 yrs with IB Diploma instead of A levels? If yes, there is MGS for girls joining ACSI for boys and SJI for boys.