Homosexuality
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initially felt homosexuality is so unnatural. As most, i wouldnt, I cant even understand how someone could be turned on by same sex partner, so ergo something was wrong with them. Have met some professionally, realise that they are perfectly normal people , with inclinations different from the norm, who have had the courage and wisdom to accept themselves and do what they feel is right. What right i have to say that is unnatural? I have learned to keep an open mind now.
Then again the question is how many of us open-minded individuals (!) will accept it if one of our kids tells us that he is one?? That is the test of of hypocritical nature :roll: -
hi all, I’m in a very big dillemma here…
I sort of know that my uncle is a homosexual (found out he registered in one of the homosexual site), and he’s very close to my young kids (2.5yrs & 8mth)
a part of me want to distance our family from him but a part of me thinking it is a harmless thing being a homosexual.
what to do? what to do? will it become an infulential aspect to my kids when he/she grows up? -
noobparent:
Also, I think gays/lesbians are unlike very aggressive religious preachers. How many of us have had gays/lesbians trying to 'convert' you? It just doesn't work that way.
I don't think there is a fixed rule to behaviour so discernment is important. The worst kind of convert is not the aggressive push if you know what I mean. -
pampers:
If he is not propagating the trend and prefers to live in the closet, then there is nothing to worry and just respect his personal wishes. However, if he thinks this is so hip and should share the good news with the world, then you have to worry.hi all, I'm in a very big dillemma here...
I sort of know that my uncle is a homosexual (found out he registered in one of the homosexual site), and he's very close to my young kids (2.5yrs & 8mth)
a part of me want to distance our family from him but a part of me thinking it is a harmless thing being a homosexual.
what to do? what to do? will it become an infulential aspect to my kids when he/she grows up? -
I’m not saying this applies to the relative but sometimes the concern may be more than just influence, ie, eg, sexual abuse.
Like we used to think that a son/daughter will be safe with a relative of the same sex but nowadays we are getting too many reports of such false security.
My mom always warn me to look out if my boy goes alone to any public toilet for too long.!! -
Just read a signboard:
At least he loves a person of the same gender, he doesn’t hate him… -
Muffins:
Significance being....?Just read a signboard:
At least he loves a person of the same gender, he doesn't hate him.... -
This thread contains the usual blend of religious, homophobic and dare I say, hateful nonsense. The fact that anyone could cite the bible in denouncing a lifestyle is so far beyond me I struggle to see you as an otherwise rationale human being. I understand however that most of you on this board are only looking after the best interests of your families and are not purposely trying to hurt anyone.
I am an angmo - married with 2 kids however I have gay family members and friends and they are beautiful people… to denounce them because you believe in Jesus means you havent the slightest clue about what Jesus taught… To cite the old testament means you are causing people genuine pain. You ever wonder what impact your poisonous rhetoric has on a young persons mind - especially when they find themselves attracted by the same sex. Sure the 5 year old son is wonderful but what happens if he tells you he is gay when he is 15… do you disown him? Do you drive him to kill himself? To make that 15 year old feel so different is pure and simple evil. -
Joseph27:
So you have then taken it upon yourself to be the morality police and ride roughshod over other folks beliefs, and condemning them yes?This thread contains the usual blend of religious, homophobic and dare I say, hateful nonsense. The fact that anyone could cite the bible in denouncing a lifestyle is so far beyond me I struggle to see you as an otherwise rationale human being. I understand however that most of you on this board are only looking after the best interests of your families and are not purposely trying to hurt anyone.
I am an angmo - married with 2 kids however I have gay family members and friends and they are beautiful people... to denounce them because you believe in Jesus means you havent the slightest clue about what Jesus taught... To cite the old testament means you are causing people genuine pain. You ever wonder what impact your poisonous rhetoric has on a young persons mind - especially when they find themselves attracted by the same sex. Sure the 5 year old son is wonderful but what happens if he tells you he is gay when he is 15... do you disown him? Do you drive him to kill himself? To make that 15 year old feel so different is pure and simple evil.
So if you are right, then those who at odds with you must be wrong, yes?
Who's casting the rhetoric now?
I don't have to use hateful rhetoric, but plainly stated, I believe homosexuality is wrong. And I don't denounce or hate them either, they are free to live their lives as they wish, but I do not have to close one eye and pretend to approve (at least in this country, unlike some in the west) or pretend that I think its alright for my children to make that life-choice, and I have the right to state that in a public forum, that my and other children read, geddit?
Very simple proposition from me;
I do not discriminate against gays; I work with them the same, I buy goods and services from gay vendors, it is part of loving and not judging your fellow man.
I do draw the line at organisations and individuals trying to promote and normalise homosexual tendencies, through schools or other channels, to my children. If any of my boys end up that way, they are still my boys, and they will never lose my love, but they will never have my approval for that life-choice either (and yes, I know all about the supposed biological underpinnings).
I can agree to disagree, but I will not have a liberal position rammed down my throat like it is in the west. There is a nuance, and you have completely missed it. -
3Boys:
This is potentially turning into a very heated discussion, so let me take upon myself to construct a truth table so that any earlier misunderstanding between you guys can be avoided.
So you have then taken it upon yourself to be the morality police and ride roughshod over other folks beliefs, and condemning them yes?Joseph27:
This thread contains the usual blend of religious, homophobic and dare I say, hateful nonsense. The fact that anyone could cite the bible in denouncing a lifestyle is so far beyond me I struggle to see you as an otherwise rationale human being. I understand however that most of you on this board are only looking after the best interests of your families and are not purposely trying to hurt anyone.
I am an angmo - married with 2 kids however I have gay family members and friends and they are beautiful people... to denounce them because you believe in Jesus means you havent the slightest clue about what Jesus taught... To cite the old testament means you are causing people genuine pain. You ever wonder what impact your poisonous rhetoric has on a young persons mind - especially when they find themselves attracted by the same sex. Sure the 5 year old son is wonderful but what happens if he tells you he is gay when he is 15... do you disown him? Do you drive him to kill himself? To make that 15 year old feel so different is pure and simple evil.
So if you are right, then those who at odds with you must be wrong, yes?
Who's casting the rhetoric now?
I don't have to use hateful rhetoric, but plainly stated, I believe homosexuality is wrong. And I don't denounce or hate them either, they are free to live their lives as they wish, but I do not have to close one eye and pretend to approve (at least in this country, unlike some in the west) or pretend that I think its alright for my children to make that life-choice, and I have the right to state that in a public forum, that my and other children read, geddit?
Very simple proposition from me;
I do not discriminate against gays; I work with them the same, I buy goods and services from gay vendors, it is part of loving and not judging your fellow man.
I do draw the line at organisations and individuals trying to promote and normalise homosexual tendencies, through schools or other channels, to my children. If any of my boys end up that way, they are still my boys, and they will never lose my love, but they will never have my approval for that life-choice either (and yes, I know all about the supposed biological underpinnings).
I can agree to disagree, but I will not have a liberal position rammed down my throat like it is in the west. There is a nuance, and you have completely missed it.
[list]- Discriminate against gays: Joseph27 - No, 3Boys - No
Not hating gays in general: Joseph27 - Yes, 3Boys - Yes
Believe in normalization of gays: Joseph27 - ? , 3Boys - No
Completely liberal regarding gays: Joseph27 - ?, 3Boys - No
If family member is gay,[list]- Love him all the same : Joseph27 - Yes, 3Boys - Yes
[/list][/list]Writing the above does make me wonder what's the difference between love and acceptance.
Accept him as he is : Joseph27 - Yes, 3Boys - No
Hope that he will change: Joseph27 - No(?), 3Boys - Yes
Hope the above is correct.
- Discriminate against gays: Joseph27 - No, 3Boys - No
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