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MsB_Luv\" post_id=\"1953847\" time=\"1576745835\" user_id=\"182449:

Sorry for being a noob, is there any reason one shld consider appeal?

Isn’t the school be in the list u have selected?
Is it consider under this scenario?

Child posted to a school Choice 2 By MOE.
Child meet COP on choice 1 —-> appeal?

Yes this scenario is possible where you may have miss choice 1 based on decimal places

Well noted. Thank u.
So if miss by decimal, parent can still try to appeal.

Thanks IloveLaksa, noted on the point.

So pple appeal:
1. So they prob appealing to sch but must qualify for COP.
2. Or miss by decimal, if COP qualifies.
3. Medical condition.

Sorry for being a noob, is there any reason one shld consider appeal?


Isn’t the school be in the list u have selected?
Is it consider under this scenario?

Child posted to a school Choice 2 By MOE.
Child meet COP on choice 1 —-> appeal?

sembgal\" post_id=\"1950765\" time=\"1575102036\" user_id=\"5559:

MsB_Luv\" post_id=\"1950756\" time=\"1575099346\" user_id=\"182449:

Sorry to deviate, may I know if schools are having same textbooks? I have some books given by friends for sec 1.

I know English is not the same, any one got any idea if Math/ Chinese/ Geo / home economics are the same for most schools?

Thank you.

Sec 1 2020 batch, please note that the mentioned books will be the final year used by MOE: Chinese, Higher Chinese, History and Geography textbooks. If you buy new textbooks, you cannot resell them to Year 2021 Sec 1 batch.

Sec 1 2020 batch will be first batch using new Maths and Science textbooks.

Maths: Think! Mathematics Secondary Textbook 1A and Think! Mathematics Secondary Textbook 1B. Publisher: Scholastic.

OR (depends on which Maths textbook Sec Sch textbook you get on the booklist.)

Maths: New Discovering Mathematics Textbook 1A and New Discovering Mathematics Textbook 1B. Publisher: Star Publishing

Thank u & those who replied, appreciate much. I was looking ard for answer. Glad to have parents who share!

It’s difficult to check the booklist from the sch cos not too sure that child b posted to
Jus normal sch, no IP.

Guess, looks like the safer books to get now would be:
History
Geo
Chinese

It’s good to recycle books. Save the earth & save money too!

Sorry to deviate, may I know if schools are having same textbooks? I have some books given by friends for sec 1.


I know English is not the same, any one got any idea if Math/ Chinese/ Geo / home economics are the same for most schools?

Thank you.

floppy\" post_id=\"1949490\" time=\"1574732926\" user_id=\"97579:

MsB_Luv\" post_id=\"1949485\" time=\"1574732349\" user_id=\"182449:

Any tot of school setting aside 20% for affiliation? For students without any affiliation, do you all think higher/ lower chance to get in?

I have teacher’s fren who told me, that there might have higher chances since 20% set aside for non-A. Aka, That the COP for non-A might be lowered?

What do u all think?

The answer is it depends.

For schools that have exceeded their 80% allocation in the past, COP will come down.
For schools who have yet to meet their quota, minimal changes to their COP.

Thank you for ur sharing. I Guess there isn’t any website to check what was the school allocation take up rate, right?

I am thinking of trying (all boys school). it’s 10 points above my son’s COP for non-A for 2018, and 6 points above for 2017 (Non-A).

Do u all think it’s still worth the try?

Any tot of school setting aside 20% for affiliation? For students without any affiliation, do you all think higher/ lower chance to get in?


I have teacher’s fren who told me, that there might have higher chances since 20% set aside for non-A. Aka, That the COP for non-A might be lowered?

What do u all think?

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MsB_Luv\" post_id=\"1947815\" time=\"1574393685\" user_id=\"182449:

Hello, I am new.

Just want to hear from some mummies here / school of thoughts for sec school with a wide COP vs a smaller range of COP.

~ wide range better/ narrow range

My personal tot: Maybe that wide range, eg. 220-254. Maybe that school only have 1 student 254.

Anyone good in analysing such to interpret?
:thankyou:

I did this analysis once.

To me, wide range usually have affiliates. They reserve spaces for students from their affiliated primary school. When that is filled up, the school open slots to the public. So if only one class is open to the public, the public competes to enter that one class. Such schools have very few high scorers. The low scorers are their affiliates and these form the bulk of the students.

Is that a good school? I doubt so. It just means they have few spaces for the public to enter, hence high COP. Standards set at the school cater to the bulk, which are average scorers.

Narrow bands usually means no affiliates. The students there made it on their own merit. Pupils there are surrounded with similiar peers. The general pace is set according to their standards i.e a good fit.

There is also one very important factor. When one joins a school with affiliates, the students there already formed their own cliques. It is very hard to break into the group. A close friend told me this when he joined my school decades ago.

To me, making friends is the most imperative experience in a sec school bec these are the friends that will see you through life. So, to be unable to break into cliques is a huge drawback. In a non-affiliated environment, everyone has to make new friends all over again. This is a strong plus.

Ps: Daddy here. So dunno whether my view is accepted?

Thank you Daddy! Surely ur views are accepted & important as well.

Like ur school of thoughts too! Very well pointed out.

The schools we are looking at has no affiliated & my son has no issue making new friends. I am jus hoping that the friends he mixes around with will be a better students

floppy\" post_id=\"1947827\" time=\"1574395605\" user_id=\"97579:

MsB_Luv\" post_id=\"1947815\" time=\"1574393685\" user_id=\"182449:

Hello, I am new.

Just want to hear from some mummies here / school of thoughts for sec school with a wide COP vs a smaller range of COP.

~ wide range better/ narrow range

My personal tot: Maybe that wide range, eg. 220-254. Maybe that school only have 1 student 254.

Anyone good in analysing such to interpret?
:thankyou:

There’s a reason why “analysts” would prefer to look at median t-score instead of range of students’ t-scores or COP. You can get the info from MOE’s SIS.

As an example, you can look at Whitley for an example of a wide range of t-scores: 188 to 251 and Punggol as an example of a narrow range: 201 to 233.
Median of Whitley is 207 while Punggol median is 205.
If both schools are of a similar size, Whitley may actually have a stronger cohort despite having a much lower COP.

You can also contrast the above with Guangyang Sec, another school with a wide range of t-score: 188 to 251. Median is 203. If schools are of a similar size, Guangyang’s cohort could be the weakest of the lot, despite having a similar range as Whitley.

The reasons for the above are varied but location, familiarity seems to be a big factor.

P/S: why only mummies can answer?

Thank you. Ok, I will Google on MOE’SIS.
Sound complicated... on median scores. Will analyse.

The sch - jus neighbourhood, jus hoping for a better cohorts. So higher median would be better - ranger than looking at its range of COP, right?
:snuggles:
Btw, Daddy and mummies are all welcome!
Thank u all for ur replies & advices.

Hello, I am new.


Just want to hear from some mummies here / school of thoughts for sec school with a wide COP vs a smaller range of COP.

~ wide range better/ narrow range

My personal tot: Maybe that wide range, eg. 220-254. Maybe that school only have 1 student 254.

Anyone good in analysing such to interpret?
:thankyou: