2013 P1 Registration Exercise for 2014 In-Take
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Did Singapore really do such a bad job in catering for our foreign frens' kids?
http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/content/singapore-birth-rate-vs-available-primary-one-places
For this year's P1 registration, all 42,580 P1 places are filled, except for 700+ foreign frens' kids, which is only about 1.6 - 1.8% shortfall in the golden piggy year cohort. With 1504 places left for Phase 3,the nos. show that 1500+ foreign kids got places thru earlier Phases. (new SC or PR kids not born in Sg?)
As pointed out, Gov sch is not exactly cheap, at $6k /yr. The less costly intl schs start at $8-10k /yr which is reasonable. Sg is an Educ Hub, so our foreign frens have a choice, even to goto UWC at $30k/yr. They should not be too critical of the host nation. The 700+ kids will eventually find places at private schs n we wish them well.
SC patriots should be understanding at this time. We hv done our best to accommodate. Some foreign frens may feel otherwise n draw comparison with Western liberal nations, but we simply have to point out the Sg perspective of self reliance. No need for 'go home' remarks. Rem there are quite a no. of SCs living abroad. What goes round comes around. -
I realised that after Phase 2c(s), there’s reduction of classes in phase 3 in many schools that still have a lot of vacancies left. These reduction definitely total up to more than 700 places. I am wondering will MOE put back these classes to accommodate the demand?
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wiltanws:
I realised that after Phase 2c(s), there's reduction of classes in phase 3 in many schools that still have a lot of vacancies left. These reduction definitely total up to more than 700 places. I am wondering will MOE put back these classes to accommodate the demand?
I believed that the reduction in number is after MOE allocated those SC and PR who did not successfully register in the first few phases. Of course, those parents can give up the place and join in Phase 3. So it do not to do with the reduction of classes. -
2013 registration - had come to a close, for 2014 p1 intake.
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Monster Mummy:
Not really, I had did some random check in the last 2 yrs on some of those not so popular primary schools with a lot of vacancies left after 2c(s) but vacancies reduced significantly at phase 3, you will find that the number of P1 classes had really reduced compared to the initial vacancies by checking the sch website. Last yr, A school near my house had 240 vacancy (8 classes) , after 2c(S), still have about 100 vacancies but in phase 3, only about 40 vacancies available. Did a check on school website the following yr and found that the school had indeed reduced the number of P1 classes from 8 to 6. so 60 vacancies of 2 classes was taken away before phase 3 started.wiltanws:
I realised that after Phase 2c(s), there's reduction of classes in phase 3 in many schools that still have a lot of vacancies left. These reduction definitely total up to more than 700 places. I am wondering will MOE put back these classes to accommodate the demand?
I believed that the reduction in number is after MOE allocated those SC and PR who did not successfully register in the first few phases. Of course, those parents can give up the place and join in Phase 3. So it do not to do with the reduction of classes.
Another most extreme case is Punggol Green Pri in 2012, initially have 210 vacancies, after phase 2c(s), still have 163 vacancies, but in Phase 3, only 20 vacancies available and a check showed that only 3 classes of P1 opened in 2013. 4 classes was already reduced before Phase 3 started. -
Sg Gov is known to be financially conservative. The reduction in places may have come after tabulating the forecasted educ expenses/SC n PR subsidies. The no. of places made avail to foreign kids in Phase 3 is then decided based on the remaining budget (allocated to MOE by MOF.) Even at $6k/yr, foreign kids may still be subsidized at Gov schs. The real world cost of Pri Sch educ is ard $8-9k, based on fees at DPS, NPS n San Yu.
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I also believed a significant number of the vacancies after the 2c sup were taken up by the SC and PR who were still unsuccessful at the balloting at 2C sup. These children will be allocated a place at one of those with vacancies… That is why the no. Of vacancies left at those school will significantly decrease in comparison to the vacancies left we see on the website on the last day of 2c sup application date.
**MOE had already highlighted on the website that the vacancies left on the last day of p2csup then does not equal the number of vacancies available at phase 3… Due to the number of SC and Pr who had yet to secure a place.
The phase 3 vacancies was only updated when all the SC and PR has secured their places… That is why what you see on the last day of phase 2c sup does not tally with the opening no. Of phase 3. -
Regarding when some school may plan for 8 classes but ended up with 6 in the end… this may nean simply mean supply more tha demand. These were your observation for the past 2 yrs… therewhere there weren’t over demand.
This is an exceptional year… where all the foreign kids are due to enrol in p1… so demand > supply -
nicnac:
Yes. But looking at the data and assumed that all those unsuccessful SC and PR in Phase 2c(S) are allocated places before Phase 3, you can still see there's reduction of more than a thousand vacancies. Unless there's sudden appearance of 1000 SC and PR who did not registered before Phase 2c(S) and wait until before Phase 3 started then register which is impossible.I also believed a significant number of the vacancies after the 2c sup were taken up by the SC and PR who were still unsuccessful at the balloting at 2C sup. These children will be allocated a place at one of those with vacancies... That is why the no. Of vacancies left at those school will significantly decrease in comparison to the vacancies left we see on the website on the last day of 2c sup application date.
**MOE had already highlighted on the website that the vacancies left on the last day of p2csup then does not equal the number of vacancies available at phase 3... Due to the number of SC and Pr who had yet to secure a place.
The phase 3 vacancies was only updated when all the SC and PR has secured their places... That is why what you see on the last day of phase 2c sup does not tally with the opening no. Of phase 3.
i will check the exact data for 2013 when i go home as i had copied all data in my home computer. But for 2012, there was 6039 vacancies in phase 2c(s) and 2330 registered. Taken into consideration those unsuccessful SC and PR all allocated places before phase 3, there's still 3709 vacancies available for Phase 3 but there was only 2079 vacancies available in phase 3. -
I hv no data… unless one has actually done their work,
On the last day of phase 2c sup after moe updated the no. Of applicants of each sch,
Go add up all the vancacies avail at 2csup… then add up all the no of applicabts…get the difference…
Then at the beginning of phase 3… compare that difference to the vacanies avail…
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