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[phtthp]

skii:

wait...
something like not correct leh.

y MOE reject?
i tot the form is adviser sign one...
if don't have 2 years, adviser can choose to don't sign.

technically, MOE only care about got signed form or no signed form. right?

can existing GRL who took this route before advise?

How can MOE possibly approve, when MOE rule changed, state that 2 years' service is required ( exclude observer stage) from GRL ?

If MOE were to approve this case, won't those GRL who served 2 years or even much longer faithfully, cry out foul or \"unfair\"'?
Then, there will be chaos, as to why some served less than 2 years, can gain admission under Phase 2B (GRL), if the MOE rule is not been adhered to, strictly. The rule become meaningless

[waterbay]

Hi,


I believed they (MOE or PA) are quite strict on this rule. Assuming the date posted (May 2015) is the GRL confirmation, he/she has only completed 13 months of service by 30 Jun 2016. 13 months compared to 24 months of service seems to be stretching abit. The approval will also not depend on the post that you might be holding, even if you become the Chairman.

(PA had issued this policy in their April 2014 circular, which was briefed to all the GRL during their monthly mtg. Policy change was published in the ST in June 2014.
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/e ... ts-workers)

I feel for your relatives' plight. Timing has been bad for them wrt when they relocated and change for length of service to be considered for eligibility. I think re-appeal may not be feasible as Phase 2B is next week.

My own opinion is don't waste time worrying about how to appeal. Juz go for what you want( or need) in this situation, and have a plan B. Juz be mentally ready for worse or take it easy (sorry, easier said then done).

[skii]

phtthp:

How can MOE possibly approve, when MOE rule changed, state that 2 years' service is required ( exclude observer stage) from GRL ?

If MOE were to approve this case, won't those GRL who served 2 years or even much longer faithfully, cry out foul or \"unfair\"'?
Then, there will be chaos, as to why some served less than 2 years, can gain admission under Phase 2B (GRL), if the MOE rule is not been adhered to, strictly. The rule become meaningless

I am more curious about the procedure and controls than saying if MOE did the correct thing or not (of course, if i were the adviser, i will not sign that form too)

Adviser need to set certain standards and uphold its integrity.

Honest la... who have seen disappearing members? more specifically, which member disappeared when his/her kid was primary 1 or 2? co-incidence, maybe not.

can a GRL, who went thru this stage, enlighten? (my kid still young)
CM send out email,
we go online to complete (all our service records are on onePA already)
then PA approve.
adviser sign

bring signed letter to phase 2B.

is that how it works?

[waterbay]

Usually around the period end of May the grassrootsconnect portal will be opened for P1 priority scheme under Phase 2B for GRL. When your time comes, can check with your CM.


If you're not eligible, I think you won't see this option available.

Website- http://app.grassrootsconnect.org.sg/home.asp
Please log in with your singpass.

This exercise is only to allow GRL to register for a PA endorsement letter, not for selection of school. Then you will need to bring this letter to your preferred school (under your GRC/SMC) when Phase 2B starts.

Then you cross fingered :xedfingers:

[skii]

thats my understanding too.


so why MOE can reject? at which stage does MOE comes in?
now is not even phase 2B yet, for next years intake.

waterbay:

Usually around the period end of May the grassrootsconnect portal will be opened for P1 priority scheme under Phase 2B for GRL. When your time comes, can check with your CM.

If you're not eligible, I think you won't see this option available.

Website- http://app.grassrootsconnect.org.sg/home.asp
Please log in with your singpass.

This exercise is only to allow GRL to register for a PA endorsement letter, not for selection of school. Then you will need to bring this letter to your preferred school (under your GRC/SMC) when Phase 2B starts.

Then you cross fingered :xedfingers:

[waterbay]

I think the subject poster said they appeal, got adviser to endorse. Probably that’s why it went to a appeal process that MOE will come in.


My fren who is in the same predicament was simply told he is not eligible (18 months of service), and adviser will not endorse appeal.

[waterbay]

This thread seems rather quiet this year round, I’m not too sure if it is bcos the new policy affecting the number of applicants.


I guess in the long run, this will really benefits the grassroots organizations. There are more to P1 priority in joining RC/NC or CCC/CCMC.

People who continue to stay could possibly be they enjoy opportunities to know their neighbours better, know what are happening around your estate(eg. crimes or home upgrading), having new facilities/activities, updates on policies to help the poor and needy, feeling rewarded after they get the chance to extend their helping hands etc.

End of the day is how PA manage to maintain a win-win situation for everybody.

[grimm]

waterbay:

This thread seems rather quiet this year round, I'm not too sure if it is bcos the new policy affecting the number of applicants.


I guess in the long run, this will really benefits the grassroots organizations. There are more to P1 priority in joining RC/NC or CCC/CCMC.

People who continue to stay could possibly be they enjoy opportunities to know their neighbours better, know what are happening around your estate(eg. crimes or home upgrading), having new facilities/activities, updates on policies to help the poor and needy, feeling rewarded after they get the chance to extend their helping hands etc.

End of the day is how PA manage to maintain a win-win situation for everybody.

:goodpost:

[Victory088]

waterbay:

I think the subject poster said they appeal, got adviser to endorse. Probably that's why it went to a appeal process that MOE will come in.


My fren who is in the same predicament was simply told he is not eligible (18 months of service), and adviser will not endorse appeal.

Ya.... I 21 montha PA ask me go fly kite! The amount of work I involved this 21 months is totally wasted. Best part, they just promoted me with new appointment for another 2 year term. How you feel?

[waterbay]

Hmm… 3 months off is really a pity. There is no way you will be given this privilege as PA (or MOE) has all along been quite strict wrt their policy, especially now everything is processed thru the system. As brought up in above threads, some tried the appeal route thru adviser also failed.


There seems to be a lack of communication/transparency between 2 party on this issue. Your eligibility could be checked beforehand with your Chairman or CM, however being "tactful" is the key. I hope you hv not been given empty promises as this is a sure way to "chase" people away.

I think it’ll be good if PA could be upfront on this new 2 year of service requirement for P1 priority eligibility, applicable wef 2016 P1 registration. They need people to support community activities and you need some "help" to get into a school near your place. At this point, both party can gain from working together (starting from a "short" 2-3 years to mayb a longer relationship).