Any Updates As To When PSLE T-Scores Will Be Scrapped?

[jetsetter]

MyPillow:

floppy:

Interestingly, MOE has used an example for the treatment of HCL of a score between 7-9 in their admission to a SAP.

Copied fr MOE site:

{When applying to SAP schools, HCL students will continue to receive an advantage.

Although HCL results do not count towards the PSLE Score, if students with the same PSLE Score are vying for limited places in the same SAP school, those with better HCL grades will be allocated a place ahead of other students. This applies before the tie-breakers for S1 posting. }


I din know this too until last yr, when my ds classmates got same T score, apply same SAP sch, the one with HCL got in . Cut off point last yr was their T score.

MP: This has been around for more than 20 years (implemented since 1993/94 ~ TBC). But not much advantage if you merely pass...And not considered if you are gunning for a non-SAP sec school.

[Lani]

Maybe everything should just remain as in current, it is the mindset of parents that need to be changed.

[CatMoon]

So, looking at the raw scores for each subject: To get into the Express stream, the student needs to score maximum of 20 points (5 pts x 4 subjects).


And 5 pts = 65 - 74 marks.

But assuming there would be plenty of students scoring just under 65 marks.
Wouldn't this translate to more students being pushed down to the Normal (Acad) stream?

Because under this new PSLE scheme, getting into the Express stream means the kid cannot score less than 65 marks for each subject.

Am I reading this right?

[jetsetter]

UBKmom:

I don’t believe all schools are good schools but I believe more schools can be top schools with better distribution of top talents. It is always good to give others under existing system not able to enter the big 4 to have the opportunity to do so and benefit from it. With the intention to change DSA further, I guess MOE is trying to moderate the elitism in the system and to create a fairer system for all, meritocracy is good but not absolute meritocracy. All in all, I guess we are in the right direction.

Maybe that's the whole idea :evil:

We've discussed this angle before somewhere in this thread or in this forum iirc. Some were wondering if the new system would 'distribute' their kids to the second tier 'Big 5 ~ 7', whereas under the old system, they might just be able to get into the Big 3~4 thru their T-score.

Take mum_sugoku's DD's case for instance...A 7-pointer might be 'distributed' to say RV, VS, NJC, Cedar, CHS, SNGS, SCGS, based on today's COP, to shore up these schools' standing. Good or no good is subjective I guess.

[Hello How]

Under the new PSLE system, those under affiliate schools might be better in getting into their choices schools?


There will be wide range of students on the same band. Those with affiliates will have a better chance if under the same band?

[Ikid]

How do the GEP students be affected by this change then? I understand some GEP students may be strong in Math & Science but weak in languages.

[phtthp]

Hello How:

Under the new PSLE system, those under affiliate schools might be better in getting into their choices schools?


There will be wide range of students on the same band. Those with affiliates will have a better chance if under the same band?

Under the new psle banding, the sequence of your 6 choices schools, is very important

If affliated students want to go back to their affliated Secondary school, they must put it as first choice Secondary school, in their list of 6 choices

[UBKmom]

Hello How:

Under the new PSLE system, those under affiliate schools might be better in getting into their choices schools?


There will be wide range of students on the same band. Those with affiliates will have a better chance if under the same band?

MOE mentioned that affiliation system will be kept but pending changes announcement. I think MOE will set a standard affiliation policy eg 2 points discount across the board rather than leaving it to the individual school or association to set the standard. I felt that this will be fairer to those without affiliation and this will also great reduce the stress of many parents and eliminate some of the large COP discrepancy between affiliate and non-affiliate student especially for some well sort after school. This will also reduce artificially high COP which further enhanced the image of elite school. So under the new system, the best COP is lower the better and I can foresees more than 4 schools will have a COP of 4 which expand the number of so call top school which we are already seeing now (after more students are scoring between 250~260) but still differentiated by a few points. Under existing system, the different in COP between RV and RI may be 7 points but under the new system, it may narrow down to 3/4, it will create an impression in parent’s mind that more schools are within the same range as those top school.

By standardising the affiliation cut-off will also indirectly reduce the P1 enrolment stress, like if you missed out in P1, you still have a high chance to get into it secondary school if you work hard. Again, this will give everyone a fairer chance to enter these school irregardless of your connections/background.

[ngl2010]

I feel a 10% probability of not getting into dream school despite working very hard is unfair. It will never happen under the old system. So, every year there will be 4,000 disappointed children. How are we going to tell our child to work hard in the future if they are balloted out? One day they will become 10% of the work force. Would the S1 bitter experience still haunt them? So, no need to work too hard as they don’t have as good luck as others? Or, is it parents’ responsibilities to make sure they bounce back? There are some children that just don’t bounce back or will be scarred by it.

[floppy]

ngl2010:

I feel a 10% probability of not getting into dream school despite working very hard is unfair. It will never happen under the old system. So, every year there will be 4,000 disappointed children. How are we going to tell our child to work hard in the future if they are balloted out? One day they will become 10% of the work force. Would the S1 bitter experience still haunt them? So, no need to work too hard as they don't have as good luck as others? Or, is it parents' responsibilities to make sure they bounce back? There are some children that just don't bounce back or will be scarred by it.

The disappointed children are 12/13 years old. Their conversation last no more than 140 characters.
After a round of Pokemon Go, they won't remember about the pain and suffering or S1 bitter experience?