Too much chemicals in our milk powder and child development

[phankao]

Donkey Kong:

Thanks for your comments.


My kid who likes western food, particularly beef, has grown very tall for his age. He is 1.4m at Pri 4. Both my wife and I are not so tall.

Is there any growth hormone in these beef? Beef burgers I mean.

must b your child. beef burgers or beef in any other form, our ds1 loves n eats, but altho he's not short, he's less than 1.5m n in sec 1. So it's just your son lah!

[Blobbi]

minnie2004:

Used to drink the Horizon organic milk but they're very expensive.

Yah. One year, the price just kept shooting up. Was around $9 per carton when we started. Then it became $16 in a yr! Anyway, I stopped the milk cos DS developed allergies.

[Blobbi]

I had a lactation specialist when I popped DS years ago. She warned me not to give powdered milk formula unless it was absolutely necessary. Reason being, apparently the milk formulae in each country is "customised" to the local taste. So the Singapore formula for, say, Nestle, has a different recipe than the Australian one. Unfortunately, the Singapore formula has among the highest % of added sugar in the world. Why this is the case, I don’t know.


I’m not sure how accurate she is, except that she was a lactation specialist from Scotland with over 20 yrs experince, and she has friends in the powdered milk trade. I just stuck to her words, just in case, bcos it has implications for the teeth (I supplemented from 18mths). Like what Smurf and Minnie 2004 have said, a lot of these additives are artificial and can be found in fresh food anyway. We do have to search harder though.

[qms]

Donkey Kong:

My kid who likes western food, particularly beef, has grown very tall for his age. He is 1.4m at Pri 4. Both my wife and I are not so tall.

You mean your son is considered tall at 1.4m for P4? :!:

My son is 1.4m and he is in P1. :shock:

[tree nymph]

qms:

Donkey Kong:

My kid who likes western food, particularly beef, has grown very tall for his age. He is 1.4m at Pri 4. Both my wife and I are not so tall.

You mean your son is considered tall at 1.4m for P4? :!:

My son is 1.4m and he is in P1. :shock:

wah, your son is really tall! mine only 1.27m, P1 too.

[adhdadhd]

wow, the topic seems to be drifted from milk, to soya ... to meat.


Since I had high blood pressure in 2003, I read a lot about processed food.
I gathered that (of course unable to prove) commercially grown animals were fed/ or injected with growth hormones and steroids (for more lint muscles), so to speed up the profit realization cycles as these animal will be more muscular faster, these growth enhancing drugs, may or may not be 100% disintegrated in their digestive systems, so the residues reside in muscle tissues, organs, blood, MILK and etc. so what happened if human eat these animals?

You will be digesting the residues of these growth hormones & steroids... these are probably why kids nowadays grow faster, adult age faster (perhaps cancer cells growth were enhanced too!)! :stupid:

And funny part is, those growth hormones for chicken are very similar to female hormone in human, and may be responsible for less manliness in male human spicy... it seems more and more young men getting extra-ordinary gentle, in movements and speech... more so than women, you see it on TV, bus and MRT, and you hear in radio stations :?:

We are living in the era of contaminated food chain ... :x :x :x

[Busymom]

When is a good age to wean off milk for children, whether it's formula milk or fresh milk? My 6yo DD still has to drink her bottle of milk before she sleeps at night or before afternoon nap. Without it, I don't think she could sleep.


I would prefer not to give her fresh milk, pretty much for the same reason as mentioned by adhdadhd. Also heard from some people that cow's milk is meant for cow, not humans. Plus, allergies run in our family, it seems that she could not consume too much dairy products (we had some bad experience with Yakult).

:?:

[adhdadhd]

Busymom:

When is a good age to wean off milk for children, whether it's formula milk or fresh milk? My 6yo DD still has to drink her bottle of milk before she sleeps at night or before afternoon nap. Without it, I don't think she could sleep.


I would prefer not to give her fresh milk, pretty much for the same reason as mentioned by adhdadhd. Also heard from some people that cow's milk is meant for cow, not humans. Plus, allergies run in our family, it seems that she could not consume too much dairy products (we had some bad experience with Yakult).

:?:

Not sure what is good age. May be you can try making the milk less tasty by diluting with more water, if she find the taste boring, she might give up altogether.

I have a friend whose kids were into organic since infancy, fed zero milk, his kids were fed organic soy milk instead, but mind you, they are costly.

[Busymom]

adhdadhd:

Not sure what is good age. May be you can try making the milk less tasty by diluting with more water, if she find the taste boring, she might give up altogether.

That sounds like a good idea. Will try it out.

adhdadhd:

I have a friend whose kids were into organic since infancy, fed zero milk, his kids were fed organic soy milk instead, but mind you, they are costly.

Are the organic soy milk fresh ones that come in packs? I have seen them in organic shops, but not in supermarkets.

[Funz]

It is recommended that children should drink milk even up to their teens. Just that the type and qty has to be adjusted as they grow. Cannot remember where I read it but if I remember correctly, by the age of 1yr old, good to switch to fresh milk, low fat or not depending on whether the kid is overweight. And when in their tweens, start switching to low fat fresh milk.


Milk need not be cow’s milk, can be soya or goat’s.

Busymom, for your DD, if I read correctly, she is still on the milk bottle at night? If that is the case, get rid of the bottle, switch to cup. That might wean her off her powdered milk.

My kids’ PD also recommend that we continue giving them milk for as long as they are willing to drink.

I switched them to fresh milk when they were about 1+yrs old. And now, DD will alternate with soya and fresh milk depending on her mood whilst DS is purely fresh milk. Even myself, I am taking unsweetened soya milk almost daily.

I had a nutritionist visiting my centres to access the kids’ milk and fibre intake. And her feedback to us was most Singaporean kids are not taking enough milk and vege.