Too much chemicals in our milk powder and child development

[adhdadhd]

wow, the topic seems to be drifted from milk, to soya ... to meat.


Since I had high blood pressure in 2003, I read a lot about processed food.
I gathered that (of course unable to prove) commercially grown animals were fed/ or injected with growth hormones and steroids (for more lint muscles), so to speed up the profit realization cycles as these animal will be more muscular faster, these growth enhancing drugs, may or may not be 100% disintegrated in their digestive systems, so the residues reside in muscle tissues, organs, blood, MILK and etc. so what happened if human eat these animals?

You will be digesting the residues of these growth hormones & steroids... these are probably why kids nowadays grow faster, adult age faster (perhaps cancer cells growth were enhanced too!)! :stupid:

And funny part is, those growth hormones for chicken are very similar to female hormone in human, and may be responsible for less manliness in male human spicy... it seems more and more young men getting extra-ordinary gentle, in movements and speech... more so than women, you see it on TV, bus and MRT, and you hear in radio stations :?:

We are living in the era of contaminated food chain ... :x :x :x

[Busymom]

When is a good age to wean off milk for children, whether it's formula milk or fresh milk? My 6yo DD still has to drink her bottle of milk before she sleeps at night or before afternoon nap. Without it, I don't think she could sleep.


I would prefer not to give her fresh milk, pretty much for the same reason as mentioned by adhdadhd. Also heard from some people that cow's milk is meant for cow, not humans. Plus, allergies run in our family, it seems that she could not consume too much dairy products (we had some bad experience with Yakult).

:?:

[adhdadhd]

Busymom:

When is a good age to wean off milk for children, whether it's formula milk or fresh milk? My 6yo DD still has to drink her bottle of milk before she sleeps at night or before afternoon nap. Without it, I don't think she could sleep.


I would prefer not to give her fresh milk, pretty much for the same reason as mentioned by adhdadhd. Also heard from some people that cow's milk is meant for cow, not humans. Plus, allergies run in our family, it seems that she could not consume too much dairy products (we had some bad experience with Yakult).

:?:

Not sure what is good age. May be you can try making the milk less tasty by diluting with more water, if she find the taste boring, she might give up altogether.

I have a friend whose kids were into organic since infancy, fed zero milk, his kids were fed organic soy milk instead, but mind you, they are costly.

[Busymom]

adhdadhd:

Not sure what is good age. May be you can try making the milk less tasty by diluting with more water, if she find the taste boring, she might give up altogether.

That sounds like a good idea. Will try it out.

adhdadhd:

I have a friend whose kids were into organic since infancy, fed zero milk, his kids were fed organic soy milk instead, but mind you, they are costly.

Are the organic soy milk fresh ones that come in packs? I have seen them in organic shops, but not in supermarkets.

[Funz]

It is recommended that children should drink milk even up to their teens. Just that the type and qty has to be adjusted as they grow. Cannot remember where I read it but if I remember correctly, by the age of 1yr old, good to switch to fresh milk, low fat or not depending on whether the kid is overweight. And when in their tweens, start switching to low fat fresh milk.


Milk need not be cow’s milk, can be soya or goat’s.

Busymom, for your DD, if I read correctly, she is still on the milk bottle at night? If that is the case, get rid of the bottle, switch to cup. That might wean her off her powdered milk.

My kids’ PD also recommend that we continue giving them milk for as long as they are willing to drink.

I switched them to fresh milk when they were about 1+yrs old. And now, DD will alternate with soya and fresh milk depending on her mood whilst DS is purely fresh milk. Even myself, I am taking unsweetened soya milk almost daily.

I had a nutritionist visiting my centres to access the kids’ milk and fibre intake. And her feedback to us was most Singaporean kids are not taking enough milk and vege.

[adhdadhd]

Busymom:

Are the organic soy milk fresh ones that come in packs? I have seen them in organic shops, but not in supermarkets.

Nope, it was powdered formula, he mentioned he could not find in Singapore. His kids were in KL Malaysia, when they were infants, now 11 and 13 liao...

[Blobbi]

Busymom:

When is a good age to wean off milk for children, whether it's formula milk or fresh milk? My 6yo DD still has to drink her bottle of milk before she sleeps at night or before afternoon nap. Without it, I don't think she could sleep.


I would prefer not to give her fresh milk, pretty much for the same reason as mentioned by adhdadhd. Also heard from some people that cow's milk is meant for cow, not humans. Plus, allergies run in our family, it seems that she could not consume too much dairy products (we had some bad experience with Yakult).

:?:

Busymom, from a nutitional perspective, you have to consider finding a calcium replacement if you want to cut out milk. Milk is not the only or the best source of calcium (leafy dark green vegetables is), but it is the easiest for most of us. Our pede says that kids need the amount of calcium found in 2 cups of milk per day till they're about 9yo when the foundational build up of calcium is highest. But thereafter, daily calcium replacement is still necessary.

We had to stop the milk because DS gets eczema. But lately the eczema has gotten worse although we've already stopped the milk , so got to stop more food items .

[Busymom]

Blobbi:

Busymom, from a nutitional perspective, you have to consider finding a calcium replacement if you want to cut out milk. Milk is not the only or the best source of calcium (leafy dark green vegetables is), but it is the easiest for most of us. Our pede says that kids need the amount of calcium found in 2 cups of milk per day till they're about 9yo when the foundational build up of calcium is highest. But thereafter, daily calcium replacement is still necessary.

Thanks, Blobbi... cos' I was about to ask why is it necessary to drink milk, although I did think the answer is most probably calcium. Actually, I didn't consume any fresh milk during my second pregnancy. Neither did I take my calcium supplement... (btw, I am not advocating anyone to follow that). Instead, I drank soy milk (the powdered type), took lots of food that is known to contain calcium including dark green vegetables. After DS was born, I didn't have any dental problem, unlike my first pregnancy... (there's an old saying that woman will lose a tooth with each pregnancy, right?). Thus, I fully subscribe to relying on natural food sources.

Blobbi:

We had to stop the milk because DS gets eczema. But lately the eczema has gotten worse although we've already stopped the milk , so got to stop more food items .

Apart from dairy products, do cut down processed food such as ham and sauages, as well refined sugar which is found in cakes and chocolates, etc.

[Busymom]

adhdadhd:

Nope, it was powdered formula, he mentioned he could not find in Singapore. His kids were in KL Malaysia, when they were infants, now 11 and 13 liao...

Thanks. Powdered form would have been moree convenient...

[Busymom]

Funz:

It is recommended that children should drink milk even up to their teens. Just that the type and qty has to be adjusted as they grow. Cannot remember where I read it but if I remember correctly, by the age of 1yr old, good to switch to fresh milk, low fat or not depending on whether the kid is overweight. And when in their tweens, start switching to low fat fresh milk.


Milk need not be cow's milk, can be soya or goat's.

Funz, thanks for your advice. Only thing is, we have tried other types of milk before, but my children don't like them...

Funz:

Busymom, for your DD, if I read correctly, she is still on the milk bottle at night? If that is the case, get rid of the bottle, switch to cup. That might wean her off her powdered milk.

This is one of those things that I say I'll do, but never really get down to doing it... :oops:

Funz:

I switched them to fresh milk when they were about 1+yrs old. And now, DD will alternate with soya and fresh milk depending on her mood whilst DS is purely fresh milk. Even myself, I am taking unsweetened soya milk almost daily.

What sort of soya milk and fresh milk do you give to DD?

Funz:

I had a nutritionist visiting my centres to access the kids' milk and fibre intake. And her feedback to us was most Singaporean kids are not taking enough milk and vege.

Yes, it's really quite hard to get children to eat enough vege. Surprisingly, I have less problem with DS as compared to DD in this area.