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    Any Updates As To When PSLE T-Scores Will Be Scrapped?

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      pirate
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      floppy:

      Are you a new Singaporean? πŸ˜†

      When have the G ever taken noise on the Internet into consideration before announcing their position?
      Ever since KSP came into existence. You dunno KSP got special internet status meh? πŸ˜‰ :siam:

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        grimm
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        I understand they started inviting affected parents (i.e. this year's P1) for focus group discussion on this. So there is a room for some modifications between and 2021.


        So if you really want to get views heard, there are ways. Probably not here though. πŸ˜‚ One wonders whether MOE considers these forums are boon or bane for them. :siam:

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          grimm:
          I understand they started inviting affected parents (i.e. this year's P1) for focus group discussion on this. So there is a room for some modifications between and 2021.


          So if you really want to get views heard, there are ways. Probably not here though. πŸ˜‚ One wonders whether MOE considers these forums are boon or bane for them. :siam:
          Yes, some primary schools' Principal / VP, may be holding talks to parents at school premises in Term 4, to only affected 2009 born pupils (current 2016 P1s) : pioneering AL Psle batch, on what to expect, lying ahead.
          Only to affected students, not to the entire school

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            pirate:
            floppy:



            Until MOE announces any concrete plans, any discussion is an exercise in futility.

            Must make noise first before the whole thing is set in concrete and it is too late. πŸ˜‰

            Don't think we'll be hearing anything official from them until Part 2 - DSA distinctive progs (of this \"twin package\") is ready for announcement. If there're any further tweaks, it'll have to be after those FGDs that grimm and phtthp mentioned.

            MOE prefer to take discussions off the line, and they tend to like targeting at stakeholders only (c.f. IPJC saga) πŸ˜›

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              jetsetter:
              MOE prefer to take discussions off the line, and they tend to like targeting at stakeholders only (c.f. IPJC saga) πŸ˜›

              Who are the stakeholders? :scratchhead: :imanangel:

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                pirate:
                jetsetter:

                MOE prefer to take discussions off the line, and they tend to like targeting at stakeholders only (c.f. IPJC saga) πŸ˜›


                Who are the stakeholders? :scratchhead: :imanangel:

                Those ksps with Ox kids, for now. Tiger mums and dads not likely, yet.

                I dunno if they would make any modifications, seriously. The new scoring system looks like some top scholar's brainchild.

                I believe the seemingly simplistic scoring system was from someone who's smart at manipulating our S$NEER monetary policy band, someone who's very talented in stats, math permutations and combinations πŸ˜› Above all, someone who firmly believes in the \"ESIAGS\" utopian motto and who takes OSC feedback seriously. Could also be a collective effort by a team of thinkers, or a big idea that was mooted by a great thinker but pieced together by a team of thinkers. 🀷

                But certainly can't be from the incumbent. He doesn't sound convicted when he talks about it in Parl and on tv, like he knows it well enough to be able to defend and justify its technicalities sufficiently. He was only sworn in not along ago. Will he modify the system he's inherited? 🀷

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                  jetsetter:
                  pirate:

                  [quote=\"jetsetter\"]MOE prefer to take discussions off the line, and they tend to like targeting at stakeholders only (c.f. IPJC saga) πŸ˜›


                  Who are the stakeholders? :scratchhead: :imanangel:

                  Those ksps with Ox kids, for now. Tiger mums and dads not likely, yet.[/quote]So Richard Watterson can continue to sleep? πŸ˜†

                  https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-wvxf_IqTgo8/VOSZjjq5cdI/AAAAAAAA2gw/RcgLMIVQBsE/w427-h220/tumblr_ms31dfIUE31s06lwjo1_500.gif\">

                  Wait... can define stakeholders like that one meh? :?

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                    jetsetter:
                    MOE prefer to take discussions off the line, and they tend to like targeting at stakeholders only (c.f. IPJC saga) :-


                    Those ksps with Ox kids, for now.
                    Tiger mums and dads not likely, yet.
                    children of Tiger mom and dad, officially starting Primary 1 next year (2017 January)

                    so, Tiger mom & dad still \"blur-blur\" : not likely yet.
                    Tigers will look at what Ox mom & dad going to do, follow them.
                    Ox mom & dad are going to be leaders for kiddy (Tigers, rabbits, dragon, snakes, etc.)


                    anyway, some primary schools like Principal of Red Swastika primary have already informed the affected 2016 P1 parents : to come down for a briefing in Term 3, on Saturday (27 August 2016), discuss more about the new AL PSLE Banding system (2021)

                    refer school memo
                    http://www.redswastika.moe.edu.sg/qql/s ... arents.pdf

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                      phtthp:


                      refer school memo
                      http://www.redswastika.moe.edu.sg/qql/s ... arents.pdf
                      In the school's memo, it says
                      [quote]a. Replacing the T-score with wider scoring bands known as Achievement Levels, to reduce the fine differentiation of students at a young age based on exam scores;

                      b. Moving towards a scoring system that better reflects students’ own level of achievement instead of comparing them to their peers (unlike the T-score);
                      [/quote]But in Singapore Examinations and Assessment Board's FAQ, it's already stated, quite clearly, that
                      http://www.ifaq.gov.sg/SEAB/apps/fcd_fa ... #FAQ_93279
                      [quote]4. What is the difference between a student’s grade and his T-Score?

                      The grade indicates how well the child has performed in that particular subject based on an objective set of standards. His Aggregate T-Score indicates how well he has performed on average in all four subjects relative to his peers and is used specifically for the purpose of determining the priority of admission to secondary schools and the eligibility/fit for the different secondary school pathways available. [/quote]

                      (Somehow it gives me the impression that MOE doesn't seem to know t-score's role in PSLE) :?

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                        jetsetter:
                        pirate:

                        [quote=\"jetsetter\"]MOE prefer to take discussions off the line, and they tend to like targeting at stakeholders only (c.f. IPJC saga) πŸ˜›


                        Who are the stakeholders? :scratchhead: :imanangel:

                        Those ksps with Ox kids, for now. Tiger mums and dads not likely, yet.

                        I dunno if they would make any modifications, seriously. The new scoring system looks like some top scholar's brainchild.

                        I believe the seemingly simplistic scoring system was from someone who's smart at manipulating our S$NEER monetary policy band, someone who's very talented in stats, math permutations and combinations πŸ˜› Above all, someone who firmly believes in the \"ESIAGS\" utopian motto and who takes OSC feedback seriously. Could also be a collective effort by a team of thinkers, or a big idea that was mooted by a great thinker but pieced together by a team of thinkers. 🀷

                        But certainly can't be from the incumbent. He doesn't sound convicted when he talks about it in Parl and on tv, like he knows it well enough to be able to defend and justify its technicalities sufficiently. He was only sworn in not along ago. Will he modify the system he's inherited? 🀷[/quote]An interesting read:
                        http://theindependent.sg/is-moes-new-ps ... n-parents/
                        :siam:

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